RE: Clear Channel on a T1

["Christian Kuhtz" <ck () arch bellsouth net>]

Hmm, interesting.  According to folks here, there's no difference in price as
far as tariff is concerned..  Different USOC codes, though.  As far as I know,
nobody here makes a difference in port cost for DS1 based on channel config,
in fact, you'd
probably get a 'are you sure you want that?!' from whoever is selling the
service to you if it is for an Internet service.

Weird.  Oh well.

--
Christian Kuhtz <ck () arch bellsouth net> -wk, <ck () gnu org> -hm
BellSouth Internet Services, Atlanta, GA, U.S.
Sr. Architect, Engineering & Architecture  "I speak for myself only"



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
> Terrence Chatfield
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 2:27 PM
> To: nanog () merit edu
> Subject: Re: Clear Channel on a T1
>
>
>
>     If this T-1 is for internet service, then what AT&T is charging
> you extra dollars
> for is the ability to send more data through their network (port
> charge). 1.536 Mbps max
> data rate for clear channel, vs 1.344 Mbps max data rate for
> non-clear channel.  There
> should be no additional charge for the local loop, since all modern
> telecom equipment
> inherently support both flavors of T-1s.
>
> CARL.P.HIRSCH () sargentlundy com wrote:
>
> > Here's a few more details -
> > We provision T1.
> >
> > Salesdroid asks "You wanna give us $$$ for clear channel?"
> >
> > Us: "..... ?"
> >
> > Salesdroid: "It's so you can get 64kbit rather than the normal 56k"
> >
> > Us: "We thought all DS-0s were 64kbit?"
> >
> > Me: "I know! I'll ask NANOG!"
> >
> > Here's a document that further obfuscates the matter for me -
> > http://www.comtest.com/tutorials/t1.html
> >
> > Anybody care to comment on its relevance in this situation? If I read it
> > correctly, Clear Channel = Less Capacity. Doesn't sound right.
> >
> > I believe the carrier in question is AT&T.
> >
> > thanks for any input you guys might have
> >
> > -carl
> >
> >
> >                     owner-nanog-outgoing
> >                     @merit.edu AT nxmime        To:     CARL P
> HIRSCH/Sargentlundy,
> >                                                 nanog () merit edu
> AT nxmime@SNL-ccmail
> >                     03/22/01 12:12 PM           cc:
> >                                                 Subject:
> Clear Channel on a T1
> > Can anybody give me some info on what exactly "Clear Channel" means in
> > relation to a DS1 circut?
> >
> > My gut tells me that it's only relevant with voice Ts...
> >
> > thanks,
> > -carl hirsch
> > network analyst
> > sargent & lundy llc