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Re: Stealth Blocking
From: "Christopher B. Zydel" <czydel () cv net>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:00:38 -0400
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 07:02:45PM -0700, Roeland Meyer wrote:
From: Christopher B. Zydel [mailto:czydel () cv net] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 4:03 PMISPs that subscribe to MAPS RBL are saying that they believe that open relays should not exist, that MAPS should be able to test for this condition, and that they don't want to receive e-mail from non-compliant hosts.This is the source of confusion... right here. This person does not know the difference between MAPS and ORBS.
Wow, this text was incredibly ambiguous. "Currently, the most common reason for a host or network being in the MAPS RBLSM is that it was used by a spammer as a mail relay. We call this third party relay spamming since the owner of the mail relay is neither a spammer nor a spamee." - http://www.mail-abuse.org/rbl/candidacy.html#ByRelaying Does MAPS cover other things as well? Certainly. "Blackholing Due to Spam Origination (Then) Blackholing Due to Spam Origination (Now) Blackholing Due to Spam Relaying Blackholing Due to Spam Support Services Blackholing Due to Netblock Inheritance" Now for the removal process: "If we are contacted, a staff member will confirm that the listed site is no longer relaying spam. If it is not relaying, the site will be unlisted, usually within a few minutes of the email or phone call. If the site is still permitting relay, the listing will continue unless there is a clear and short timeline to get anti-relay code deployed." The language seems pretty plain to me.
Current thread:
- RE: Stealth Blocking, (continued)
- RE: Stealth Blocking jlewis (May 24)
- RE: Stealth Blocking alex (May 24)
- network policy (was Re: Stealth Blocking) Paul Vixie (May 25)
- Re: network policy (was Re: Stealth Blocking) Paul Vixie (May 26)
- RE: Stealth Blocking David Schwartz (May 23)
- RE: Stealth Blocking David Schwartz (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Shawn McMahon (May 24)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Christopher B. Zydel (May 23)
- RE: Stealth Blocking David Schwartz (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Eric A. Hall (May 24)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Valdis . Kletnieks (May 24)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Eric A. Hall (May 24)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Shawn McMahon (May 24)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Steve Sobol (May 24)