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Re: EMAIL != FTP
From: Robert Sharp <rsharp () appliedtheory com>
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 11:53:00 -0400
Amen... Look at companys like logitech who create programs to email your grandma you kids baby pictures. Your gonna tell grandma she needs to FTP that file from her daughter FTP sites. And tell daughter she has to set it up. Daughter has no concept of bandwidth and doesn't want one. I think we often forget we work for the users and if they want to email attachment and it's not hurting anyone else so be it. I am happy she can do it... Have you ever seen USENET if you wanna talk about a waste of bandwidth by UUencoding files you should start there first, email is the least of your problems in this arena.... one ten meg attachment on an email isn't anything compared to the alt.binaries traffic. Yet no one has an issue with that..... When it comes down to it, what ever is easier is what the average joe is gonna do. Dropping a file in the attachment window of my email client is 10 times easier than setting up an FTP/Web server to upload your file too. Lets follow the basic steps. Email Way: 1) open email client 2) type address 3) drag and drop file 4) click send FTP way: 1) open email client 2) type address 3) type in link 4) open FTP program 5) open connection 6) upload file 7) click send it's almost twice as many steps, from a human factor prospective the email way is much more favorable. Remember computer work for us we don't work for computers. Considering the one downside or inflated file size it's much more preferable for myself. I dunno about you but my boss doesn't want to ftp my reports, he want to click on an icon in his email. Rob deeann mikula wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2001, Sabri Berisha wrote:Second, an average user probably wouldn't have the skill.Then he/she should learn. I don't buy a car if I can't drive. I'm sorry for comparing internetworking with driving a car but I feel that FTP'ing is a basic skill if you want to use the internet in a professional wayuh, when is the last time that you worked the front line of an ISP? most people have never even heard of FTP. i almost spewed my orange juice all over my desk when i read that paragraph. :) unfortunately, i have accepted the fact that there is no stopping customers from emailing 10MB (and larger!) files, they can just go to our competition if we prevent it. i bitch, moan, and insist that the front line kids give the "email != FTP speech," but we continue to permit it. *sigh* unless we go back in time and re-do the protocols, and re-educate newbies before setting them lose on the 'net, i don't think that we are going to stop people from emailing what should be FTP'd. deeann m.m. mikula director of operations telerama public access internet http://www.telerama.com 1.877.688.3200
Current thread:
- Re: EMAIL != FTP, (continued)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP John Fraizer (May 25)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Shawn McMahon (May 25)
- RE: EMAIL != FTP Robert Blayzor (May 25)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Mitch Halmu (May 25)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Scott Francis (May 25)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Sabri Berisha (May 25)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Marko Karppinen (May 25)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP David Howe (May 25)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Scott Francis (May 25)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP deeann mikula (May 25)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Robert Sharp (May 25)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Steve Sobol (May 25)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Albert Meyer (May 26)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Greg A. Woods (May 25)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Albert Meyer (May 25)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Steve Sobol (May 25)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Jim Mercer (May 25)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Scott Francis (May 25)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Valdis . Kletnieks (May 26)
- Re: cleaning up MIME external-body attachments.... Greg A. Woods (May 26)
- Re: cleaning up MIME external-body attachments.... Valdis . Kletnieks (May 26)