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Re: Followup British Telecom outage reason


From: "Wayne E. Bouchard" <web () typo org>
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:08:37 -0700


They probably did. The vendor probably did also. Of course, they can't
always simulate real network conditions. Nor can your own labs. Heck,
even a small deployment on 2 or 3 routers (out of, say, 200) can't
catch everything. It is a simple fact that some bugs don't show up
until its too late.

And cascade failures occure more often than you might think (and not
necessarily from software.) Remember the AT&T frame outage? Procedural
error. How about the netcom outage of a few years ago? Someone
misplaced a '.*' if I remember correctly. Human error of the simplest
kind. I've had a data center go offline because someone slipped and
turned off one side of a large breaker box.

These things happen.

The challenge is to eliminate the ones you CAN control. And, IMO, the
industry is generally doing a good job of that.

I chalk this whole thing up to bad karma for BT.

-Wayne

On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 11:05:20AM +0000, Neil J. McRae wrote:



BT is telling ISPs the reason for the multi-hour outage was
a software bug in the interface cards used in BT's core network.
BT installed a new version of the software.  When that didn't fix
the problem, they fell back to a previous version of the software.

BT didn't identify the vendor, but BT is identified as a "Cisco Powered
Network(tm)."  Non-BT folks believe the problem was with GSR interface
cards.  I can't independently confirm it.


I'd be surprised if it was the GSR, and in anycase that doesn't
absolve anyone. If it was a software issue- why wasn't the software
properly tested? Why was such a critical upgrade rolled out across
the entire network at the same time? It doesn't add up.

Neil.

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Wayne Bouchard
web () typo org
Network Engineer
http://www.typo.org/~web/resume.html


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