Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ...

["Eric A. Hall" <ehall () ehsco com>]

> From: "Jim Shankland" <nanog () shankland org>

> Nicely put.  Of course, that model does not correspond to reality, nor
> is it ever likely to.  Traffic is always going to be controlled,
> filtered, redirected, and translated at administrative boundaries.
> Global, packet-level, end-to-end connectivity is dead, until somebody
> comes up with a compelling argument for why a Windows PC in an
> Internet cafe in Sofia, Bulgaria needs unfettered, packet-level access
> to a Coke machine in a break room at Sun Microsystems in Palo Alto.

Or why a team of gamers need to be able to coordinate n-way traffic between
them without each of them having listeners

Or why a protocol would need to embed addressing into the datastream

Not like any of that will ever happen.