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Re: Lack of Security
From: Kevin Day <toasty () temphost dragondata com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 23:07:36 -0500 (CDT)
At 09:42 PM 9/12/2001, Robert Hough wrote:The security we display in most aspects of our society echo the same security we display in most of our networks as well. Now ask yourself, why was it so easy to hijack these planes? Because we have sacrificed security for convenience - and our enemy used that against us. Well, something to chew on. G'Night.Can someone explain to me how only allowing ticketed passengers past security checkpoints is going to accomplish anything toward increased security? The only thing I can even dream of is that it will reduce the number of people passing the checkpoints.
I have a feeling this one isn't going to stick. Most airports weren't designed for this. I pick people up from O'Hare at least a few times a month. Other than the baggage claim (which is nearly packed during busy times) where can you meet someone? I'd venture to say at least 25% of the people hanging out in the gate areas are there to pick people up. Where are these people going to go? If I remember correctly each of the baggage claim levels at O'hare has one set of bathrooms, and at most one place to buy a drink at. There's almost nowhere to sit. The monitors aren't showing info about flights except those that have landed. People who normally wouldn't have to go to the baggage claim at all (no bags checked) are going to have to go there to meet people, adding to the crowding even more. There's just nowhere else to do this. Adding to the fact that after this alot of people are *really* nervous about flying, and having a friendly face there at the gate for them is important. In addition, this requires you to coordinate *where* you're going to meet someone, rather than just being able to be at the gate they're arriving at. I realize the significance of making changes in the wake of this, however this one is (in my opinion) really unacceptable. I sent a letter off to the director of the FAA today expressing similar thoughts. If you feel the same way, you may wish to as well. I know I'm probably not very popular right now, to be complaining about "added security", but the very weak additional security this may provide is already outweighed by much much bigger weaknesses elsewhere. If the problem is wanting more time spent at the checkpoints, I've *never* seen all the checkpoints open at a time, on any of the terminals. Opening more up couldn't hurt. I know this is really getting non-operational, but keep this in mind if any of you are getting called to meet&greet people at the airport over the next few weeks. I spent a good amount of time today dealing with this very problem with some travellers coming here over the coming weeks. -- Kevin
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- Re: Totally OT, sorry; was (Re: Lack of Security) Christian Kuhtz (Sep 13)
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- Re: Totally OT, sorry; was (Re: Lack of Security) John Fraizer (Sep 13)
- Re: Totally OT, sorry; was (Re: Lack of Security) John Fraizer (Sep 13)
- Re: Totally OT, sorry; was (Re: Lack of Security) EA Louie (Sep 13)
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- Re: Totally OT, sorry; was (Re: Lack of Security) Dave Stewart (Sep 13)
- Re: Totally OT, sorry; was (Re: Lack of Security) bmanning (Sep 13)
- RE: Lack of Security Mathias Körber (Sep 12)
- Re: Lack of Security Kevin Day (Sep 12)
- Re: Lack of Security Matthew S. Hallacy (Sep 12)
- Re: Lack of Security Todd Suiter (Sep 13)
- Re: Lack of Security Joel Baker (Sep 13)
- Re: Lack of Security John Payne (Sep 14)
- RE: Lack of Security Scott A Crosby (Sep 13)