Re: Deaggregating for emergency purposes

[bmanning () karoshi com]

> > > The point was calling up the upstream of the AS who is generating bogus
> > > routes.  The upstream of the caller is not at all involved.
> >
> >     But the upstream of the caller is involved.  They passed
> >     the route(s) on, no?
> >
> > --bill
>
> Not necessarily, I could be the victim of a leak calling up
> an ISP to report it. Or some bored person connected to
> route-server.* constantly checking prefixes.

        you either generated the bogus route yourself or
        you heard it from one of your direct neighbors.

        there is no other way for you to hear the route.
        Now you can -look- for what might be bogons (from your
        perspective) in other places in the net (route-server.*)
        or some random LG.  But just because a route is there
        does not mean it shows up on your border.  And routes
        that show up in those places are "nominally" interesting
        only from the perspective of "...are my routes propogating..."

        If there IS a legit.bogon that shows up on your border,
        then the -only- people who can do anything about it are:

                ) yourself. *
                ) your peer.
        
        (*) or you can contract with me at the usual and customary
            rates to config your routers for you.
        
        It may take both of you to provide the types of "corrective
        lenses) to give you the view you think you want, but it is
        an affrontery to "jump over" your providers to pester other
        ISPs that you have no business pestering.  The routes they
        exchange among themselves is their business.