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RE: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking
From: "Rowland, Alan D" <alan_r1 () corp earthlink net>
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:11:00 -0700
First I agree that this is BAD on general principle but... IANAL but IMHO spewing cracked copies of say, Photoshop, or other copyright violations might be considered probable cause with the specific place/things being the share program and it's contents. Sharing the content of your favorite program/CD/DVD with the world has never met "fair use." I had significant input in my life regarding the difference between "can" and "may." IMHO significant numbers of net citizens have forgotten that difference. Just my 2ยข. Best regards, _________________________ Alan Rowland -----Original Message----- From: Joseph T. Klein [mailto:jtk () titania net] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:16 PM To: Marshall Eubanks; nanog () merit edu Subject: Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking I would argue that my home computer is the repository of my papers and effects. No place in the below law does it limit the restriction to the government only. Indeed any law passed giving sanction to any party having the right IMHO is in direct violation of both the spiret and the letter of the Bill of Rights. Amendment IV The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. The dogs of stupidy have been unleashed. --On Wednesday, 24 July 2002 12:40 -0400 Marshall Eubanks <tme () multicasttech com> wrote:
Thought this would be considered on-topic as guess who would have to clean up the resulting messes... Regards Marshall Eubanks
-- Joseph T. Klein jtk () titania net "... preserve, protect and defend the constitution ..." -- Presidential Oath of Office
Current thread:
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking, (continued)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Michael Smith (Jul 24)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Ralph Doncaster (Jul 24)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking James Thomason (Jul 25)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Pete Kruckenberg (Jul 25)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Petr Swedock (Jul 25)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 25)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Joseph T. Klein (Jul 25)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Joseph T. Klein (Jul 25)
- RE: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Daniel Golding (Jul 26)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking David Terrell (Jul 26)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Joseph T. Klein (Jul 25)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 25)
- RE: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Randy Bush (Jul 25)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Richard A Steenbergen (Jul 25)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Dan Hollis (Jul 25)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Scott Granados (Jul 25)
- RE: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Daniel Golding (Jul 26)
- Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking Petr Swedock (Jul 26)
- Valenti backs away from P2P hack bill Richard Forno (Jul 26)