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Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product
From: Scott Francis <darkuncle () darkuncle net>
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 09:35:51 -0700
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 06:14:37PM -0700, briareos () otherlands net said: [snip]
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 05:22:39PM -0700, PJ wrote:Even more, I would hate to see the advocation of a hostile reaction to what, so far, is not considered a crime.Feel free to go portscan some US military and federal interest networks, then. If it's not a crime, you shouldnt have any problems scanning them.If it's a crime, someone should have no problem citing the code. If it's not a crime, than I am guilty of nothing and should have nothing to fear. Of course, in the present political climate, that's probably not the case, but it doesn't make it right. However, there is legal precident that port scanning is not illegal. There are
Just because something is not technically illegal (yet) doesn't make it justifiable, either.
always going to be people who are going to probe and poke, as long as there is no direct harm, who cares? Sorry, the days of people sitting
There will always be people who probe physical security of banks and other institutions, too. Such folk usually find themselves explaining their actions to the nice officers in short order. Just because something happens doesn't mean it should be condoned, or accepted as unavoidable.
in nice straight lines, only doing what you want them to do and only going where you want them to go are not yet upon us.
Agreed (I doubt that day will ever come).
http://online.securityfocus.com/news/126
There is a difference between what's legally acceptable and what's ethical or even prudent.
PJ
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- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Johannes B. Ullrich (May 15)
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Dan Hollis (May 15)
- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Scott Francis (May 16)
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- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product PJ (May 15)
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- Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product Kevin Oberman (May 16)
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