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Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement)
From: David Barak <thegameiam () yahoo com>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 06:23:59 -0700 (PDT)
<disclaimer> I don't work for UUNET (uumci? mcinet?...), although I know Chris and others who do work there, and have a biased, very good opinion of their skills and approaches </disclaimer> --- Scott Granados <scott () wworks net> wrote:
Unless you actually call UUnet and your not a customer, God help you then.
Well, I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for this - how many (non-networking) companies will do things which don't benefit their customers on behalf of someone who is not a customer (and shows no sign of becoming one)? I can't think of any offhand, and I don't think that a whole lot would show up in an exhaustive search. The chain should be: if under attack (or whatever) - you call YOUR UPSTREAM. They should call their upstream, etc. Basically, you should call providers with whom you have a relationship, and not call those with whom you don't. If you DO call a provider with whom you don't have a relationship, don't expect the highest quality of service! To me, this is pretty obvious: UUNet's policies are geared to help their customers. Duh...
Some companies are very very good at dealing with DDOS, Internap being one and UUNET if you are a customer another. Even a post here although maybe not exactly proper will get you responses from people like Chris and so on who can and will be helpful.
Here you are dramatically benefiting from the altruism and general nice-guy-ness of Chris, etc.. on the UU Security team. I'm glad that they help non-customer, non-peers, but I'd have to call it going "above and beyond". just my $.0158 (adjusted for inflation) ===== David Barak -fully RFC 1925 compliant- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com
Current thread:
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement), (continued)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Scott Granados (May 06)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Christopher L. Morrow (May 06)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Scott Granados (May 06)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Tim Wilde (May 06)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Christopher L. Morrow (May 06)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Scott Granados (May 07)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Leo Bicknell (May 07)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Christopher L. Morrow (May 07)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Stephen J. Wilcox (May 07)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) Christopher L. Morrow (May 06)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement) David Barak (May 07)
- NOC responses when advised of ongoing DoS attacks (Was Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement)) Niels Bakker (May 07)
- Re: NOC responses when advised of ongoing DoS attacks (Was Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement)) Christopher L. Morrow (May 07)
- Re: NOC responses when advised of ongoing DoS attacks (Was Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISPservice level agreement)) David Barak (May 07)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISP service level agreement) Christopher L. Morrow (May 06)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISP service level agreement) Stephen J. Wilcox (May 07)
- Re: We have a firewall (was Re: Pakistan government orders ISP service level agreement) Rob Pickering (May 07)
- Re: Pakistan government orders ISP service level agreement Daniel Senie (May 05)
- Re: Pakistan government orders ISP service level agreement Vijay Gill (May 05)
- Re: Pakistan government orders ISP service level agreement Joseph Noonan (May 05)