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RE: ISPs' willingness to take action
From: Charles Sprickman <spork () inch com>
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 00:44:32 -0500 (EST)
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Adam Hall wrote:
Personally, I'm beginning to feel doubt that the technology industry will be able to maintain the level of competence and respect that we all need and deserve to have. I can't imagine what the health care industry would be like if ignorance was embraced as well as it seems to be in the technology industry.
Have you been to a doctor lately? Antibiotics are the doctor's version of "reboot your PC". No need for any fancy tests. You might have strep throat or a simple virus. Who cares, throw drugs at it regardless of the long-term harm that causes. This country is going down the crapper fast because no one can think 10 minutes ahead of where they're at. It's not just the computer business, it's not just the healthcare system, it's everything. No one wants to think things through, and those that do don't get along, so the net result from them is zero. The one thing that might make you feel better is that nothing is going to blow up next week, it will just get marginally worse day by day until things deteriorate to say, the state that our public education system is in (or thereabouts). Charles
-AdamProblem is, some applications, like Outlook for example (if I remembercorrectly), like to >use the 135, 137, 139 and others to connect to the Exchange server. You block them, andit will start to croak. You have a lot of home users not using a VPN toconnect to theiroffice exchange servers. I used to do this myself at times.When you sell a service to someone, and neglect to mention you blockcertain incomingports, especially to a possible business user or home user trying to accesstheir office, >you put yourself in a really bad position.By the way, can anybody explain to me a legitimate use for port 135/137 traffic across the Internet, like it's somebody's private LAN? Seems to me anybody who still thinks that's legitimate is living in thepast.So, the big question: why don't ISPs do more of this? Are they afraid of client reaction? Doesn't wash, for me: most clients would be highly grateful, and all it really takes for the remainder is fair warning. Cost? Again, you can judge for yourselves how low the fruit you choose to pick; the biggest gains have the best ROI.Happy clients, liberated bandwidth, faster servers -- what's to loose?
Current thread:
- Re: ISPs' willingness to take action, (continued)
- Re: ISPs' willingness to take action Sean Donelan (Oct 27)
- Re: ISPs' willingness to take action Joe Abley (Oct 27)
- Re: ISPs' willingness to take action Sean Donelan (Oct 27)
- Re: ISPs' willingness to take action kenw (Oct 27)
- Re: ISPs' willingness to take action Sean Donelan (Oct 27)
- ISPs' willingness to take action [OT USPS] David Lesher (Oct 27)
- Re: ISPs' willingness to take action [OT USPS] Henry Linneweh (Oct 27)
- Re: ISPs' willingness to take action Joe Abley (Oct 27)
- Re: ISPs' willingness to take action Sean Donelan (Oct 27)
- RE: ISPs' willingness to take action Charles Sprickman (Oct 26)
- Re: ISPs' willingness to take action matt (Oct 27)
- Re: ISPs' willingness to take action Niels Bakker (Oct 27)
- RE: ISPs' willingness to take action Bob German (Oct 27)
- RE: ISPs' willingness to take action Eric Kuhnke (Oct 27)
- Re: ISPs' willingness to take action Alan Spicer (Oct 27)
- Re: ISPs' willingness to take action kenw (Oct 27)
- Re: ISPs' willingness to take action E.B. Dreger (Oct 27)
- Re: ISPs' willingness to take action Christopher L. Morrow (Oct 27)