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Re: Packet anonymity is the problem?
From: Joe Maimon <jmaimon () ttec com>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 14:45:40 -0400
Petri Helenius wrote:
Joe Provo wrote:Maybe there should be more "neighborhood intelligent" worms which would target resources that are within the vicinity of the compromised host. SMTP, WWW, etc. services. That way the effects would be most devastating for the lazy.I have heard the 'assymetric cost/benefit' rationale for thebad laziness (sloppiness, not the larry wall-esque 'good' laziness of automation) on and off the last few years. Similarly, I have heard about the tremendous cost of sloppiness and human error in terms of root-cause for networking badness for the past several years.Pete
That raises what some would call an interesting veiwpoint (not my own)Since there will be a worm for X written by "bad" people, and the worse the worm, the faster the "lazy" administrators patch......
Therefore the "good" people should beat the bad people to the punch and write the worm first. Make it render the vulnerable system invulnerable or if neccessary crash it/disable the port etc..... so that the "lazy" administrators fix it quick without losing their hard drive contents or taking out the neighborhood.
Such "corrective" behavior as suggested by you might also be implemented in such a "proactive" worm.
How many fewer zombies would there be if this was happening? Clearly the current model is not working.
Current thread:
- Packet anonymity is the problem? Sean Donelan (Apr 10)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Todd Vierling (Apr 10)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Dan Hollis (Apr 10)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Paul Vixie (Apr 10)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Joe Provo (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Petri Helenius (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Joe Maimon (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Jeff Workman (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Joe Maimon (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Jeff Workman (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Steven M. Bellovin (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Todd Vierling (Apr 10)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Yann Berthier (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Iljitsch van Beijnum (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Yann Berthier (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Owen DeLong (Apr 11)
- Re: Packet anonymity is the problem? Henry Linneweh (Apr 11)