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RE: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site?
From: "Hannigan, Martin" <hannigan () verisign com>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 16:15:34 -0500
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:09 PM To: nanog () merit edu Subject: Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 12:55:02PM -0800, Chad Skidmore wrote: quoting me:What's the difference? Why is everyone so upset about Lycos and nobody seems to be doing much of anything about the /existing botnets/, which conservative estimates[1] already put at anywhere from 1-3K per botnet to upwards of 1-5M hosts total[2]?Well, the primary difference is that Lycos is trying to market what they are doing as a "good" thing in a fairly public manner. If their vigilante efforts become accepted as "OK" then it further opens the door for others to take the next step towards making dDOS attacks ok as long as you feel your motivations are pure. As network operators we all need to make sure that we enforce our AUPs and make it known that breaking those AUPs is not ok just because you feelyour motivesare pure. Most AUPs have some language that basically states that dDOS and simlar activities are "bad" and we will take action if you engage in said "bad" activities.My point was to Martin's question about what would happen if - god forbid - there were large botnets under the control of spammers; a careful reading will suggest that my major point was, duh, that there already are large botnets under the control of spammers.
Um, not 1 million bots - in concert. -M<
Current thread:
- RE: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Hannigan, Martin (Dec 02)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Brett (Dec 02)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Rich Kulawiec (Dec 03)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Hannigan, Martin (Dec 02)
- RE: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Christopher L. Morrow (Dec 02)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Steven Champeon (Dec 02)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Christopher L. Morrow (Dec 02)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Steven Champeon (Dec 02)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Jim Segrave (Dec 03)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Jim Segrave (Dec 03)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Brett (Dec 02)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Steven Champeon (Dec 02)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Steven Champeon (Dec 02)
- zombies.. again - good! here are some actual facts [was: How many backbones ...] Gadi Evron (Dec 02)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 02)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Rich Kulawiec (Dec 02)
- what we do know about botnets - per your questions [was: How many backbone ...] Gadi Evron (Dec 02)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Steven Champeon (Dec 02)