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Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site?
From: Steven Champeon <schampeo () hesketh com>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 16:33:41 -0500
on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 04:18:52PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
Can you direct me toward a singluar entity of 1MM bots controlled by a single master?
No, I cannot. I *can*, and have, forward on reports by those more in the know than I that estimate 100K new bots / day are being added, and I can certainly point to incidents here which suggest that the problem is widespread, that the spammers responsible are few, and that many ISPs continue to refuse to contain the problem. Do the math. 100K / day new bots, added by a few responsible parties, and it's not hard to see that over a brief period of time any one of those parties might control over a million hosts or more.
I think you might be behind on what's going on in botland lately.
By all means, enlighten me. All I see from my limited pov is that bots are useless if disallowed from sending spam via port 25 outbound, and that every day sees hundreds if not thousands, of new bots trying to send spam to my users, which suggests that /nothing is being done to prevent them from using the available resources/. Convince me otherwise, please. I'm all ears. -- hesketh.com/inc. v: +1(919)834-2552 f: +1(919)834-2554 w: http://hesketh.com join us! http://hesketh.com/about/careers/account_manager.html join us!
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- RE: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site?, (continued)
- RE: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Hannigan, Martin (Dec 02)
- RE: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Christopher L. Morrow (Dec 02)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Steven Champeon (Dec 02)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Christopher L. Morrow (Dec 02)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Steven Champeon (Dec 02)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Jim Segrave (Dec 03)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Jim Segrave (Dec 03)
- RE: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Hannigan, Martin (Dec 02)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Steven Champeon (Dec 02)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Steven Champeon (Dec 02)
- zombies.. again - good! here are some actual facts [was: How many backbones ...] Gadi Evron (Dec 02)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 02)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Rich Kulawiec (Dec 02)
- what we do know about botnets - per your questions [was: How many backbone ...] Gadi Evron (Dec 02)
- Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site? Steven Champeon (Dec 02)