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Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden
From: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb () cs columbia edu>
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:00:02 -0400
In message <ifmcvl.cm0wwg () yourwebmail com>, "Steve Sobol" writes:
And I'd argue that Owen's attitude is appropriate for transit and business-class connections[0] - but if you're talking about a consumer ISP, that's different. If the Big Four[1] US cable companies followed AOL's lead, we'd see a huge drop in malware incidents and zombies.
I see your point, and I almost agree -- almost, but not quite, because there's a very big problem: consumers have very little choice of which broadband ISP they can subscribe to. As you note, there are very few cable ISPs, at least one of whom is also a major content owner. The LEcs are flexing their muscles to get rid of UNE, which may eliminate DSL options in many places. That will leave consumers with at most two choices, and the players in that space seem to love walled gardens. Is, for example, p2p "abuse"? After all, it uses up bandwidth. I worry about giving too much power to unaccountable monopolists. --Prof. Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
Current thread:
- Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Fergie (Paul Ferguson) (Apr 26)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Suresh Ramasubramanian (Apr 26)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Owen DeLong (Apr 26)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Steve Sobol (Apr 27)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Steven M. Bellovin (Apr 27)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Bill Stewart (Apr 27)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Steve Sobol (Apr 27)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Owen DeLong (Apr 27)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Steven J. Sobol (Apr 27)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Owen DeLong (Apr 27)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Mark Newton (Apr 27)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Steve Sobol (Apr 28)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Steven Champeon (Apr 29)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 28)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Steven Champeon (Apr 29)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Owen DeLong (Apr 26)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Suresh Ramasubramanian (Apr 26)