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Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent
From: Richard A Steenbergen <ras () e-gerbil net>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:16:32 -0400
On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 10:38:28AM -0700, Steve Gibbard wrote:
On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 11:28:00AM -0400, dgolding () gmu edu wrote:in depeering. However, dealing with Cogent on peering matters is incredibly unpleasant. I can understand networks and peering coordinators feeling that it just isn't worth it.Just for the record, I've dealt with Cogent's peering people on behalf of a few networks over the last two years, and in my experience they've been extremely pleasant to work with.
Since I forgot to mention it in my last e-mail, Cogent does indeed have some exceptionally good folks working for them, particularly their peering people. However, we all know that in this particular case the issue is not about personalities, technical competence, ratios, etc. Anyone who doesn't know that Cogent has severely disrupted the IP transit industry's economy across the board with its pricing has been hiding under a rock for the past few years. They've recently slashed their prices to even more absurdly low new levels, and are actively targetting their peers' customers, particularly in Europe. Anyone who didn't expect to see exactly this kind of fallout as a result really hasn't been paying attention. What remains to be seen from all of this is who blinks first, if anyone else jumps in at the same time, and if any of it changes anything in the marketplace. -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras () e-gerbil net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)
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- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent, (continued)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Jonas Frey (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Alexander Koch (Apr 14)
- RE: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Neil J. McRae (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Fredy Kuenzler (Apr 14)
- RE: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Neil J. McRae (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Richard A Steenbergen (Apr 14)
- RE: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Neil J. McRae (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Richard A Steenbergen (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Richard A Steenbergen (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Patrick W Gilmore (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Steve Gibbard (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Richard A Steenbergen (Apr 14)
- RE: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Neil J. McRae (Apr 14)
- RE: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Daniel Senie (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Alexander Koch (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Patrick W Gilmore (Apr 14)
- Partial Transit (was Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent) Deepak Jain (Apr 14)
- RE: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Neil J. McRae (Apr 15)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Richard A Steenbergen (Apr 14)
- RE: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Neil J. McRae (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Patrick W Gilmore (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Richard A Steenbergen (Apr 14)