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Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS
From: William Allen Simpson <wsimpson () greendragon com>
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:16:55 -0400
Abhishek Verma wrote:
coz i assumed that everyone wants to block such sites.
Bad assumption. After all, terrorist is poorly defined, and from theperspective of a particular government.
For example, Hamas is considered a terrorist organization by Israel and the US, but other governments note a "freedom fighter" humanitarian organization that runs schools and medical facilities. Zionists were once considered terrorists by the British and the United Nations (the settler that shot unarmed Palestinians yesterday would certainly count even these days), yet those freedom fighters now have a country code of their own. Under a strict definition, the continuing zotob et alia attacks are terrorism. But we block their sites as a "police" of their actions that hurt us on the Internet, rather than because of their thoughts. Funny thing though, they don't seem to call their sites "spam-king", but instead "opt-in-real-big", or the equivalent. So, we have to examine their binaries to find the sites.
It's not our feelings, it's that you didn't think of the consequences. Apparently, you need a bit of life experience, "Class of 2004".sorry if i hurt some feelings.
Some of us remember there was a coup in Russia, and the Parliament was being shelled. They cut the phone lines, yet the Internet didn't go down, and became the only method of communication. Real-time reportswere passed across the border; international outrage helped save lives.
Certain governments considered the export of packet switching technology to Russia as treasonous. Was it a good thing, anyway?
On 8/18/05, Randy Bush <randy () psg com> wrote:Again, I am not discussing "censoring ideas".then why did you use emotionally loaded words such as "terrorist?
and "porn", which is also clearly in the eye of the beholder.... ;-) -- William Allen Simpson Key fingerprint = 17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26 DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32
Current thread:
- Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS, (continued)
- Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS Abhishek Verma (Aug 18)
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- Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS Jonathan M. Slivko (Aug 18)
- Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS Geo. (Aug 18)
- Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS Randy Bush (Aug 18)
- Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS Abhishek Verma (Aug 18)
- Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS Daniel Golding (Aug 18)
- Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS Jeffrey I. Schiller (Aug 18)
- Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS Conrad (Aug 18)
- Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS Steven Champeon (Aug 18)
- Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS Randy Bush (Aug 18)
- Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS William Allen Simpson (Aug 18)
- Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS bmanning (Aug 18)
- Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS Geo. (Aug 18)
- Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS Florian Weimer (Aug 18)
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- Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS Jay R. Ashworth (Aug 18)
- Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS Steven J. Sobol (Aug 18)
- Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS Abhishek Verma (Aug 18)
- Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS Randy Bush (Aug 18)
- Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS Hyunseog Ryu (Aug 18)