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Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls
From: Andre Oppermann <nanog-list () nrg4u com>
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 19:29:44 +0200
John Levine wrote:
Face it, 7D is dead; and even if overlays had not arrived, cell phones would have killed it. Once you learn to think 10D, it's trivial.Oh, you ignorant rednecks.* Even my cell phone has 7D dialing and it'll be a century before overlays arrive where I live. The reason that it makes sense for an ISP to warn its customers about surprise toll calls is that toll rates have gotten so low that for the most part, we don't worry about them. Due to the peculiar telegeography in my area, a 7D call within my area code could be local, intra-LATA toll, or inter-LATA toll. But the most expensive of those is 8 cents/min so for voice calls, I don't care, and I really
Duh. I pay less for an international trans-atlantic call for premium voice minutes in retail (US$0.04/minute). Wholesale I get the same minute for less than 2 cents (US$). A 64kbit/s transparent ISDN call on the same path costs 3 cents (US$). And I'm in Switzerland. So it seems to be cheaper for me to call you than it is for you to call someone in the next LATA. -- Andre
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- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls, (continued)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Stephen Sprunk (Aug 18)
- RE: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Kristal, Jeremiah (Aug 18)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Robert Bonomi (Aug 18)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls David Barak (Aug 18)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls David Lesher (Aug 18)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls John Levine (Aug 19)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Steven M. Bellovin (Aug 19)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Stephen Sprunk (Aug 19)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Steven J. Sobol (Aug 19)
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- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Jay R. Ashworth (Aug 19)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls David Barak (Aug 18)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Andre Oppermann (Aug 19)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Jared Mauch (Aug 19)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Stephen Sprunk (Aug 19)
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- Re: centrist... Richard A Steenbergen (Aug 19)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Todd Vierling (Aug 19)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls John Levine (Aug 19)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Jeff Shultz (Aug 19)