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Re: Cisco and the tobacco industry
From: "Geo." <geoincidents () nls net>
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:48:13 -0400
Sorry, but its a traditional part of the product model for telecommunications equipment. PBX's, routers, pretty much everything - support contract required. Sure, you could have it a different way, but
you
would have to be willing to pay significantly more up front to pay for
that
ongoing support.
What ongoing support, just put the fixes on an ftp site. Cisco's problem is they aren't patches, they are full versions. If they created an exe file that attached via tcp/ip to the router and just changed the bits that needed changing instead of requiring a whole new build be loaded it wouldn't be such an issue to just leave the patches out there on cisco.com so anyone with a router could get them without costing cisco anything but a bit of bandwidth. Look, it's up to Cisco how they do this but if DHS wants this country's infrastructure to be secure then Cisco is going to need to realize that a whole lot of people are not going to be willing to pay to fix product defects and they're not going to be willing to spend days trying to get those fixes for free. Perhaps after a few router worms it will make more sense. Oh and I don't know about you but if I buy a PBX and a flaw in it allows any remote caller to make outbound calls at my expense, you can bet money that I'm going to expect a flaw like that to be fixed free of charge, contract or not. Geo.
Current thread:
- Cisco and the tobacco industry J. Oquendo (Jul 28)
- Re: Cisco and the tobacco industry Jared Mauch (Jul 28)
- RE: Cisco and the tobacco industry Geo. (Jul 28)
- Re: Cisco and the tobacco industry Jared Mauch (Jul 28)
- RE: Cisco and the tobacco industry Geo. (Jul 28)
- Re: Cisco and the tobacco industry Leo Bicknell (Jul 28)
- Re: Cisco and the tobacco industry Daniel Golding (Jul 28)
- Re: Cisco and the tobacco industry Geo. (Jul 29)
- Re: Cisco and the tobacco industry Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 29)
- Re: Cisco and the tobacco industry Geo. (Jul 30)
- Re: Cisco and the tobacco industry Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 30)
- Re: Cisco and the tobacco industry Owen DeLong (Jul 30)
- Re: Cisco and the tobacco industry Geo. (Jul 31)
- Re: Cisco and the tobacco industry Geo. (Jul 30)
- Re: Cisco and the tobacco industry Brad Knowles (Jul 30)
- Re: Cisco and the tobacco industry Geo. (Jul 30)
- Re: Cisco and the tobacco industry Roy Badami (Jul 30)
- Re: Cisco and the tobacco industry JC Dill (Jul 30)
- RE: Cisco and the tobacco industry Geo. (Jul 28)
- Re: Cisco and the tobacco industry Jared Mauch (Jul 28)