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Re: The whole alternate-root ${STATE}horse (was Re: Enable BIND cache server to resolve chinese domain name?)
From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra () baylink com>
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:43:49 -0400
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 10:08:35AM +0200, Brad Knowles wrote:
At 10:32 PM -0400 2005-07-04, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:But the whole "there's a non-ICANN root: the sky is falling" thing is an argument cooked up to scare the unwashed; us old wallas don't buy it.That's because you understand the underlying technology, and you understand how to deal with the problem (including understanding that you may just have to live with it).
Yep.
Most people don't understand the underlying technology or the true nature of the problem, nor are they capable of doing so. All they know is that their e-mail doesn't work, or they can't get to the web pages they want. And for them, this is a very real problem.
Yep.
Since there's a lot more of them than there are of us, and we're the ones who are likely to be operating the systems and networks where these people are our customers, when they have a problem, that creates a problem for us. Moreover, most of them are unlikely to be willing to just live with the problem, if no other suitable technical solution can be found. Instead, they'll believe the sales pitch of someone else who says that they can fix the problem, even if that's not technically possible.
Well they might. Well, actually, poorly they might. But that argument seems to play right *to* the alt-root operators, since the "fix" is to switch your customer resolvers to point to one of them. (Assuming, of course, they stay supersets of ICANN, and don't get at cross-purposes with one another.) In fact, merging them at your resolvers might be the best solution.
Okay, the sky may not be falling. Maybe it's just the Cyclorama, or the fly grid. But when the actors are on stage and one of these things falls, there's not much practical difference. And us techies are the ones that have to pick up the pieces and try to put them back together again.
Isn't it the truth. But Steve's approach doesn't seem to *me* to play in that direction. Am I wrong? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra () baylink com Designer +-Internetworking------+----------+ RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates | Best Practices Wiki | | '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://bestpractices.wikicities.com +1 727 647 1274 If you can read this... thank a system administrator. Or two. --me
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- Re: Enable BIND cache server to resolve chinese domain name? Jay R. Ashworth (Jul 06)
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- The whole alternate-root ${STATE}horse (was Re: Enable BIND cache server to resolve chinese domain name?) Jay R. Ashworth (Jul 04)
- Re: The whole alternate-root ${STATE}horse (was Re: Enable BIND cache server to resolve chinese domain name?) Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 04)
- Re: The whole alternate-root ${STATE}horse (was Re: Enable BIND cache server to resolve chinese domain name?) Jay R. Ashworth (Jul 05)
- Re: The whole alternate-root ${STATE}horse (was Re: Enable BIND cache server to resolve chinese domain name?) Steve Gibbard (Jul 05)
- Re: The whole alternate-root ${STATE}horse (was Re: Enable BIND cache server to resolve chinese domain name?) Todd Underwood (Jul 05)
- Re: The whole alternate-root ${STATE}horse (was Re: Enable BIND cache server to resolve chinese domain name?) Todd Vierling (Jul 05)
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- Re: The whole alternate-root ${STATE}horse (was Re: Enable BIND cache server to resolve chinese domain name?) Jay R. Ashworth (Jul 05)
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- Re: The whole alternate-root ${STATE}horse (was Re: Enable BIND cache server to resolve chinese domain name?) Jay R. Ashworth (Jul 05)
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- Re: The whole alternate-root ${STATE}horse (was Re: Enable BIND cache server to resolve chinese domain name?) Jay R. Ashworth (Jul 05)
- Re: The whole alternate-root ${STATE}horse (was Re: Enable BIND cache server to resolve chinese domain name?) Brad Knowles (Jul 05)
- Re: The whole alternate-root ${STATE}horse (was Re: Enable BIND cache server to resolve chinese domain name?) Mark Newton (Jul 05)
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- Re: The whole alternate-root ${STATE}horse (was Re: Enable BIND cache server to resolve chinese domain name?) Tony Finch (Jul 06)
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