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Re: IPv6 news
From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet () consulintel es>
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 08:57:18 +0200
Hi Geoff, Sorry, I think replied the wrong email, I was referring to the comment about the reclaim of unused space, I'm sure was in the last APNIC, but I'm starting to doubt if you said it or somebody else ... One more comment on this thread is regarding the usage of private addresses for managing networks, such as cable modems. I've understood that at least one big ISP in Japan and another in US run into troubles because net 10/8 become short for them. At least the Japanese one got a public /8 to renumber the network, and I guess this will start to happen more often. Regards, Jordi
De: Geoff Huston <cide-report () potaroo net> Responder a: <cide-report () potaroo net> Fecha: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:52:48 +1000 Para: <jordi.palet () consulintel es>, "nanog () merit edu" <nanog () merit edu> Asunto: Re: IPv6 news Jordi, I don't think I've ever said how long a time IPv4 trading would continue to undertake a viable form of distribution following the exhaustion of the unallocated IP number pool. Yes I am guilty of some speculation about what happens post unallocated exhaustion, and the latest set of speculative questions was at this week's RIPE 51 meeting (http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-51/presentations/pdf/ripe51-ipv4-lifet ime-rev.pdf) (Look at the end of the presentation for some speculative thoughts on this topic.) regards, Geoff At 09:41 AM 13/10/2005, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:I don't think so ... I recall Geoff Huston in the last APNIC indicated that this kind of actions are only going to provide a few additional time. I think the BoF should be more in the direction of "why not doing already IPv6 (from the perspective of the ISPs) ?". Delaying the inevitable don't seems the best approach to me, instead, preparing everything ahead of time, reduce the cost, which in any case is not significant. Regards, JordiDe: Daniel Golding <dgolding () burtongroup com> Responder a: <owner-nanog () merit edu> Fecha: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:20:31 -0400 Para: Randy Bush <randy () psg com>, "Steven M. Bellovin"<smb () cs columbia edu>CC: <nanog () nanog org> Conversación: IPv6 news Asunto: Re: IPv6 news On 10/12/05 3:13 PM, "Randy Bush" <randy () psg com> wrote:geoff's predictions for a very lively market in v4 space will seriously come into play.Maybe its time to have a serious talk about IPv4 commodity trading schemes. Anyone interested in this enough to have a BOF at ARIN/NANOG? This could extend the lifetime of the IPv4 space significantly by promoting efficient use through economic incentives, provide positive economic incentives to move to v6 when needed, and eliminate the grey market. Proper controls could be put into place to prevent de-aggregation through utilization of the RIRs as clearing houses.randy************************************ The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.org Barcelona 2005 Global IPv6 Summit Information available at: http://www.ipv6-es.com This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited.
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Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 news, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 news Michael Greb (Oct 14)
- Re: IPv6 news JORDI PALET MARTINEZ (Oct 15)
- Re: IPv6 news David Conrad (Oct 15)
- Re: IPv6 news Steven M. Bellovin (Oct 13)
- Re: IPv6 news Randy Bush (Oct 13)
- Re: IPv6 news Michael . Dillon (Oct 13)
- Re: IPv6 news Brandon Ross (Oct 13)
- Re: IPv6 news Michael . Dillon (Oct 13)
- Re: IPv6 news Bjørn Mork (Oct 14)
- Re: IPv6 news Geoff Huston (Oct 14)
- Re: IPv6 news Jeroen Massar (Oct 13)
- Re: IPv6 news Christopher L. Morrow (Oct 13)
- Re: IPv6 news JORDI PALET MARTINEZ (Oct 13)
- Re: IPv6 news Christopher L. Morrow (Oct 13)
- Re: IPv6 news Daniel Roesen (Oct 14)
- Re: IPv6 news Jared Mauch (Oct 14)
- Re: IPv6 news Michael . Dillon (Oct 14)