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Re: wrt joao damas' DLV talk on wednesday


From: Randy Bush <randy () psg com>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 15:16:50 -0700


therefore registrars (like alice's... remember alice? this is a song about
alice) have no place to go with registrant KSK data at this time.  this in
turn keeps most registrars from bothering to collect or store this "useless"
data.  ISC proposes to accept this KSK data (in the form of DLV RRs) via
authenticated automated processes whereby "lots of keys" can be sent to us
by interested/participating registrars.  we do not have a good way of knowing
whether somebody is or isn't the registrant for bankofamerica.com, but we
think that bank of america's registrar does have a way of authenticating the
registrant.  and we know how to authenticate bankofamerica.com's registrar.
so there IS a more scalable, untouched-by-human-hands, trust path available.

thanks for actual technalia.

( first, i suspect much of the confusion could come from your
thinking that the place up on skyline is *the* alice's restaurant.
it isn't.  the real one was in stockbridge, mass, and rather
short-lived.  so you can see why one might wonder about isc's
validation methods.  :-)

i think if you amplified on and detailed the above, and went into
how re-delegation and key changes would handled, it would go a long
way to clarifying the isc dlv registry's security process.

you're also welcome to use some of the cctlds and other zones i
manage as outlying/strange examples.  e.g. NG, which i could sign,
but neither ng nor i have an established relationship to isc.  and
then i hope to get rid of it soon (been working with the in-country
folk for five years on this, and the illumination at the end of the
tunnel might be a light as opposed to a train!), and how it would
be rolled would be of interest.  and say psg.com, registered
through retsiger, who we might assume, for sake of example, will
not play.

randy


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