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Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming


From: "Alexei Roudnev" <alex () relcom net>
Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 14:47:50 -0700


Internet IS a wild west. You should live with it. It will never be _quet,
dead american's residential area, where dogs do not bark and kids do not
play themself on streets in age of 8 (normal dogs bark, and normal kids
often play themself when they are 8)_.

It is the whole WORLD, not one country.

So, we must live with it, and do not hope, that it will have numerous _speed
tickets_ and _police officers_ (as 90% of the people live every day, making
their own decisions and protecting themselves.

It is, in fact, a very effectiv way to stop spammers. But it definitely
became a dangerous DDOS service. So - learn how to live with it, it's the
only choice. (Make sure, that no single protocol or botnet can kill the
whole network or deplete all resources, for example).


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gadi Evron" <ge () linuxbox org>
To: "Florian Weimer" <fw () deneb enyo de>
Cc: <nanog () merit edu>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming



On Thu, 25 May 2006, Florian Weimer wrote:

* Gadi Evron:

http://news.google.com/news?q=black+frog

How do we make this folly stop?

Ignore it?  It's an inactive Sourceforge project (with some Google
forums attached), and news reports seem to be based on a Slashdot
diary entry announcing it:

Ignoring is the high-road. How long are we going to cry about the Internet
being a battle-ground, the wild west, or whatever else if we legitimize
DDoS?

Sometimes being quiet is not going to win the war. There will be other
Blue Frogs.


  <http://slashdot.org/~Spy+der+Mann/journal/135727>

There are far more dangerous Sourceforge projects out there. 8-/




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