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Re: BCP38 thread 93,871,738,435 (was Re: register.com down sev0?)
From: Per Heldal <heldal () eml cc>
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:49:57 +0200
On Thu, 2006-10-26 at 02:20 -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
http://spoofer.csail.mit.edu/summary.php If someone finds the silver bullet that will change the remaining 25% or so of networks, I think ISPs on every continent would be interested.
Financial incentive is the key. If there is none, those with the most to gain (backbone operators) also have to power to create such incentive. It wouldn't be fundamentally different from the basic network policing that happened on the academic networks which formed the Internet backbone in the 80s and early 90s. Keywords: ========= Work with OS and CPE vendors to include probes with equipment/software. Create lists of badly behaved prefixes. Drop offending prefixes from the DFZ. -- Result: BPC compliance or go the "scenic route" (bust). Problem solved .. move on. Problems: ========= Politics. Ill-informed politicians can come up with the most incredible excuses to protect offenders. Decide who define the criteria used to identify "offending networks", and administer the filtering recommendation. Has to tolerate some "collateral damage". Widespread misconception of an untouchable "public internet". Such a thing doesn't exist. The net still consist of interconnected privately owned networks within which the owner/operator is free to implement and enforce whatever policies they want. Some countries may require that customers/users are informed about the existence and consequences of such restrictions, but that shouldn't be much of a problem either. I'd be more than happy to tell anyone who object to BCP38 to look elsewhere for network connectivity. -- Per Heldal - http://heldal.eml.cc/
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- Re: BCP38 thread 93,871,738,435 (was Re: register.com down sev0?) Fergie (Oct 25)
- Re: BCP38 thread 93,871,738,435 (was Re: register.com down sev0?) Sean Donelan (Oct 25)
- Re: BCP38 thread 93,871,738,435 (was Re: register.com down sev0?) Per Heldal (Oct 26)
- Re: BCP38 thread 93,871,738,435 (was Re: register.com down sev0?) Steven M. Bellovin (Oct 26)
- Re: BCP38 thread 93,871,738,435 Florian Weimer (Oct 26)
- Re: BCP38 thread 93,871,738,435 Steven M. Bellovin (Oct 26)
- Re: BCP38 thread 93,871,738,435 + SPF Douglas Otis (Oct 26)
- Re: BCP38 thread 93,871,738,435 + SPF Michael . Dillon (Oct 27)
- Re: BCP38 thread 93,871,738,435 + SPF Chris L. Morrow (Oct 27)
- Re: BCP38 thread 93,871,738,435 + SPF Michael . Dillon (Oct 27)
- Re: BCP38 thread 93,871,738,435 + SPF Chris L. Morrow (Oct 27)
- Re: BCP38 thread 93,871,738,435 + SPF Douglas Otis (Oct 27)
- Re: BCP38 thread 93,871,738,435 + SPF Gadi Evron (Oct 27)
- Re: BCP38 thread 93,871,738,435 (was Re: register.com down sev0?) Sean Donelan (Oct 25)