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Re: Kremen's Buddy?
From: Jack Bates <jbates () brightok net>
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 08:35:01 -0500
Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
Ever notice the only folks happy with the status quo are the few who have already have an intimate knowledge of the ARIN allocation process, and/or have the right political connections to resolve the "issues" that come up when dealing with them?Try looking at it from an outsider's point of view instead. If you're new to dealing with ARIN, it is not uncommon to find the process is absolutely baffling, frustrating, slow, expensive, and requiring intrusive disclosure just shy of an anal cavity probe.
I take offense to all this misinformation based on my not so long ago viewpoint as an outsider. Based on everything I heard here, I had a negative view of ARIN. After all, everyone here deals with them. If they hate dealing with ARIN, it must be horrible. Live an learn.
My experiences with ARIN are simple. It was a lot of work. I didn't have any of my netblocks SWIP'd, hadn't analyzed my network in the way that ARIN wanted, and so I had to work to get all this information together the first time. However, I found ARIN easy to work with. They helped me out when I had questions, and when I was terrified that they wouldn't give me IPs, they were generous. My second time in dealing with them was aggravating, as I wanted more than what they issued (they use time between requests to determine a trend of actual IP utilization). However, they were right, and my last request expanded the previous request block out (I love contiguous when I can have it) and started a new one (yipee! another route!).
Please remember the outsiders. They expect that everyone dealing with ARIN and talking bad about the process to know what they are talking about. ARIN may not be perfect, but newcomers shouldn't be afraid. The hardest part is information gathering to setup for the first time, as many people don't have the information ARIN requests readily available. After that, a little due diligence and it's a cake walk.
-Jack
Current thread:
- Re: Kremen's Buddy?, (continued)
- Re: Kremen's Buddy? Adi Linden (Sep 12)
- RE: Kremen's Buddy? Daniel Golding (Sep 12)
- Re: Kremen's Buddy? Joe Abley (Sep 12)
- Re: Kremen's Buddy? Richard A Steenbergen (Sep 12)
- Re: Kremen's Buddy? Owen DeLong (Sep 12)
- Re: Kremen's Buddy? Joe Abley (Sep 12)
- Re: Kremen's Buddy? Tom Vest (Sep 12)
- Re: Kremen's Buddy? Stephane Bortzmeyer (Sep 13)
- friends? you got friends? bmanning (Sep 12)
- Re: Kremen's Buddy? Michael . Dillon (Sep 13)
- Re: Kremen's Buddy? Jack Bates (Sep 13)
- ARIN sucks? was Re: Kremen's Buddy? Albert Meyer (Sep 13)
- Re: ARIN sucks? was Re: Kremen's Buddy? Hank Nussbacher (Sep 13)
- Re: ARIN sucks? was Re: Kremen's Buddy? Alain Hebert (Sep 14)
- Re: ARIN sucks? was Re: Kremen's Buddy? virendra rode // (Sep 14)
- Re: Kremen's Buddy? Adi Linden (Sep 12)
- RE: Kremen's Buddy? Michael . Dillon (Sep 13)
- RE: Kremen's Buddy? Justin M. Streiner (Sep 12)
- Re: Kremen's Buddy? Stephen Sprunk (Sep 12)
- Re: Kremen's Buddy? Joe Abley (Sep 12)
- Re: Kremen's Buddy? Michael . Dillon (Sep 13)