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Re: Questions about populating RIR with customer information.
From: Steven Champeon <schampeo () hesketh com>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 10:11:03 -0400
on Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 09:47:45AM -0400, Drew Weaver wrote:
Up until recently, we were only providing the RIR database with information about our larger allocations /24 or larger. We have noticed however that many anti-spam organizations such as Spamhaus, and Fiveten will use the lack of information regarding an IP allocation as a blank check to blacklist entire /24s when they are really targeting a single /30 or a /29.
It's not just Spamhaus. How do you expect *anyone* to know whether an abusive customer of yours has a /29 or a /18 unless you *tell us* in rwhois? We happily block large swaths of the network due to failure on the providers' parts to adequately describe the allocation. rDNS scans and guesswork are fine, but it's much better if we can count on the providers' actual assignments as published in rwhois and block the smaller allocations instead.
Is there some way that we can 'proxy' the information so that it simply states that the /29 has been allocated to a customer but it doesn't provide their contact information?
Why on earth would you want to do that? In a world where 90%+ of our inbound mail traffic is abuse, I think accountability trumps privacy. Anyone using those stupid cloaked whois listings is automatic fodder for the filters here. Your right to access my resources ends when you deny me the ability to identify you if I so choose, on evidence of ill intent. -- hesketh.com/inc. v: +1(919)834-2552 f: +1(919)834-2553 w: http://hesketh.com/ antispam news, solutions for sendmail, exim, postfix: http://enemieslist.com/
Current thread:
- Questions about populating RIR with customer information. Drew Weaver (Aug 01)
- RE: Questions about populating RIR with customer information. michael.dillon (Aug 01)
- Re: Questions about populating RIR with customer information. Douglas Otis (Aug 02)
- Re: Questions about populating RIR with customer information. Steven Champeon (Aug 01)
- Re: Questions about populating RIR with customer information. Leigh Porter (Aug 01)
- Re: Questions about populating RIR with customer information. Steve Atkins (Aug 01)
- Re: Questions about populating RIR with customer information. Florian Weimer (Aug 01)
- Re: Questions about populating RIR with customer information. James Hess (Aug 02)
- RE: Questions about populating RIR with customer information. michael.dillon (Aug 01)