Re: Questions about populating RIR with customer information.

[Leigh Porter <leigh.porter () ukbroadband com>]

We always used to put full customer details in RIPE for AS6765 and
AS5378. I never had any issues or queries from anybody, they were just
told that this is how it is done.

--
Leigh Porter


Steven Champeon wrote:
> on Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 09:47:45AM -0400, Drew Weaver wrote:
>   
> > Up until recently, we were only providing the RIR database with
> > information about our larger allocations /24 or larger. We have
> > noticed however that many anti-spam organizations such as Spamhaus,
> > and Fiveten will use the lack of information regarding an IP
> > allocation as a blank check to blacklist entire /24s when they are
> > really targeting a single /30 or a /29.
> >     
>
> It's not just Spamhaus. How do you expect *anyone* to know whether an
> abusive customer of yours has a /29 or a /18 unless you *tell us* in
> rwhois? We happily block large swaths of the network due to failure
> on the providers' parts to adequately describe the allocation. rDNS
> scans and guesswork are fine, but it's much better if we can count on
> the providers' actual assignments as published in rwhois and block the
> smaller allocations instead.
>
>   
> > Is there some way that we can 'proxy' the information so that it
> > simply states that the /29 has been allocated to a customer but it
> > doesn't provide their contact information?
> >     
>
> Why on earth would you want to do that? In a world where 90%+ of our
> inbound mail traffic is abuse, I think accountability trumps privacy.
>
> Anyone using those stupid cloaked whois listings is automatic fodder for
> the filters here. Your right to access my resources ends when you deny
> me the ability to identify you if I so choose, on evidence of ill
> intent.
>
>