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Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all?
From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman () es net>
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:06:11 -0800
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:30:55 -0500 From: Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net> Sender: owner-nanog () merit edu On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 12:06:48PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:* Jeroen Massar:For a list of ISP's doing IPv6 check: http://www.sixxs.net/faq/connectivity/?faq=nativeDoes PPPv6 still work on the T-DSL platform? 8-/ The list would be more convincing if it contained links to product pages.You likely want to look at this page: http://www.sixxs.net/faq/connectivity/?faq=ipv6transit This is the page that has those that are doing native that are reasonably major service providers.
Note that sixxs only deals with commercial providers. Many (most?) of the major research and education networks around the globe have done IPv6 in production for years. That includes ESnet, DREN, NREN and Internet2 in the US, CAnet in Canada, Geant/Dante in Europe and a number of national networks in Asia. At least ESnet has offered IPv6 as a production service for several years including DNS service. If you check the headers, you should see that this message started out via IPv6 and, if your mail host is IPv6 reachable, took IPv6 for the entire path. That said, while we provide IPv6 services, we see minimal traffic and have found that IPv6 is, at best, poorly supported by most vendors (excluding host OS vendors). Most hosts support IPv6 fairly well, but switching and routing equipment lacks many features for IPv6 that are present for IPv4 and system management and security products tend to be even worse. E.g. try SNMP access to your routers by IPv6 and you might find a few problems, depending on the vendor...and don't expect much help from the vendor. If you see IPv6 as a solution to the exhaustion of IPv4 space, take a look at http://www.civil-tongue.net/clusterf/. It may help at some point, but many of us see no clear way to get from here to there without massive growth in both the RIB and the FIB in the process. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman () es net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751
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- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all?, (continued)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? Jeroen Massar (Dec 18)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? Steven Haigh (Dec 18)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? Jeroen Massar (Dec 18)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? Florian Weimer (Dec 18)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? Sebastian Abt (Dec 18)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? Florian Weimer (Dec 18)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? Sebastian Abt (Dec 18)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? Sascha Lenz (Dec 18)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? Jeroen Massar (Dec 18)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? Jared Mauch (Dec 18)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? Kevin Oberman (Dec 18)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? Mikael Abrahamsson (Dec 19)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? Mohacsi Janos (Dec 19)
- /56 for home sites, /48 for business sites & billing considerations (Was: European ISP enables IPv6 for all?) Jeroen Massar (Dec 19)
- Re: /56 for home sites, /48 for business sites & billing considerations (Was: European ISP enables IPv6 for all?) Mohacsi Janos (Dec 19)
- Re: /56 for home sites, /48 for business sites & billing considerations (Was: European ISP enables IPv6 for all?) Christopher Morrow (Dec 19)
- Re: /56 for home sites, /48 for business sites & billing considerations (Was: European ISP enables IPv6 for all?) Jeroen Massar (Dec 19)
- Re: /56 for home sites, /48 for business sites & billing considerations (Was: European ISP enables IPv6 for all?) Mohacsi Janos (Dec 21)
- Re: /56 for home sites, /48 for business sites & billing considerations (Was: European ISP enables IPv6 for all?) Leo Vegoda (Dec 23)
- Re: /56 for home sites, /48 for business sites & billing considerations (Was: European ISP enables IPv6 for all?) Jeroen Massar (Dec 23)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? Iljitsch van Beijnum (Dec 19)