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Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all?
From: Henry Linneweh <hrlinneweh () sbcglobal net>
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:03:02 -0800 (PST)
I was able to reach the japanse link which provided me with http://www.ipv6.org/howtos.html and http://www.wide.ad.jp/ -Henry ----- Original Message ---- From: Steven Haigh <netwiz () crc id au> To: Jeroen Massar <jeroen () unfix org> Cc: Vassili Tchersky <vt () phear org>; Alain Durand <alain_durand () cable comcast com>; nanog () merit edu Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 1:39:01 AM Subject: Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 10:09:16AM +0100, Jeroen Massar wrote:
Vassili Tchersky wrote: [..]XS4All (Netherlands) is providing the same service if I correctly remember.They used to have a product called "PowerDSL", which did IPv6 over PPPv6, but apparently due to changes in the infra they had to drop this. XS4all does still, since about 2001 or so, provide a tunnelbroker to their own users. Every user can simply go to the service.xs4all.nl site, and view/modify their tunnel + subnet configuration there. Only static tunnels are supported though (at least this is afaik).
It's kind of interesting that from 2001ish to current day and there is still only a handful of service providers worldwide that seem to offer *any* kind of support for IPv6. After all the propaganda, is there actually any other major deployments in the IPv6 space?
From the ipv6.org web site, I see "Most of today's internet uses IPv4, which
is now nearly twenty years old." - read as it works well! " IPv4 has been remarkably resilient in spite of its age, but it is beginning to have problems." - Really? Every network I know using IPv4 still works as designed. "Most importantly, there is a growing shortage of IPv4 addresses, which are needed by all new machines added to the Internet." - I'm sure there's a lot more ways around this - and I'm sure the NANOG archives have a lot of thought food there. "It also adds many improvements to IPv4 in areas such as routing and network autoconfiguration." - I would really love to know what these are that DHCP etc doesn't already do. I tried to check out the FAQ at http://faq.v6.wide.ad.jp/ but it wasn't reachable - maybe it needs IPv6 connectivity? As for routing 'improvements', doesn't more address space just give us more routes to handle? "IPv6 is expected to gradually replace IPv4, with the two coexisting for a number of years during a transition period." - so this 'transition period' has been, what, 7 years so far? I'm still predicting that it'll be at least another 10 years before IPv6 amounts to much... On a side note, does anyone currently have issues getting new address space where it's operationally required? I don't know anyone first hand who has yet to come across this issue... -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz () crc id au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9001 6090 - 0412 935 897 C:\WINDOWS C:\WINDOWS\GO C:\PC\CRAWL
Current thread:
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all?, (continued)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? Jeroen Massar (Dec 19)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? Kevin Oberman (Dec 19)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? JAKO Andras (Dec 18)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? Adrian Chadd (Dec 18)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? JAKO Andras (Dec 18)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? Donald Stahl (Dec 18)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? Christopher Morrow (Dec 17)
- Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all? Mark Smith (Dec 18)