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Re: Question on Loosely Synchronized Router Clocks


From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman () es net>
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:28:45 -0700

Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:03:33 -0700
From: "Xin Liu" <smilerliu () gmail com>
Sender: owner-nanog () merit edu


Dear Nanogers,

We are a bunch of academic researchers interested in Internet
security. We notice that some research papers require that BGP router
clocks be globally synchronized to a 5-minute granularity. If a
router's clock is off by more than 5 minutes, it cannot forward
packets, but there's no other side effect. From an operational point
of view, do you think it is a practical requirement? If not, what are
the potential problems that prevent router clocks from being loosely
synchronized? If you consider 5-minute too small, what do you consider
as a practical clock skew requirement for BGP routers on the Internet?

We'd appreciate your input very much. It will help us understand
what's practical and what's not in our work.  Please reply to us
directly.

What papers? I can assure you that BGP has no such requirement. I
suspect sBGP and SoBGP might have such a requirement, but that's not
"real world". 

I had a router that lost it's NTP servers and was off by about 20
minutes. The only obvious problem was the timestamps in syslog. (That's
what alarmed to cause us to notice and fix it.)
-- 
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: oberman () es net                       Phone: +1 510 486-8634
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