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Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6)
From: John Curran <jcurran () mail com>
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 09:37:08 -0400
At 7:56 PM +0930 9/30/07, Mark Prior wrote:
It would be nice to see some evidence of some forward motion but I don't see any. The vendors seem to point at a lack of demand and the ISPs claim a lack of support from the vendors and/or not customer demand.
It's going to get real interesting, since (in general): 1) Customers aren't going to ask for IPv6 (it's not their problem) 2) ISP's may plan a few years out, but don't make capital commitments until they're absolutely required. 3) It takes most vendors 3 to 6 months to move requirements through marketing and 1 year plus for engineering and chip design. Alas, this particular feature set (functional IPv6 and transition tools) is not just one new protocol feature or option; it's an order of magnitude more complex and will take ISP's months (or even years) to deploy. It's amazing that got the need for the new protocol right more than a decade ago, but seemed to have left all the details to the last minute.
If the ISPs tried to deploy it for themselves then perhaps this current impasse could be broken and the current shortcomings would then have some visibility with the vendors and that might encourage the IETF to address the real issues.
Agreed.
A quick look at some of the usual suspects shows not much consumption of their own dog food. ... <http://www.mrp.net/ISP.html>
Very nice chart! /John
Current thread:
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6), (continued)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) John Curran (Sep 29)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Eliot Lear (Sep 29)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) JORDI PALET MARTINEZ (Sep 30)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Daniel Senie (Sep 28)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Randy Bush (Sep 28)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Alain Durand (Sep 28)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Steven M. Bellovin (Sep 27)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Jeroen Massar (Sep 28)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Eliot Lear (Sep 28)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Mark Prior (Sep 30)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) John Curran (Sep 30)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Mark Prior (Sep 30)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) John Curran (Sep 30)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Jari Arkko (Sep 27)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Randy Bush (Sep 27)
- Re: Fw: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 26)