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Re: Problems sending mail to yahoo?


From: Joe Greco <jgreco () ns sol net>
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:18:52 -0500 (CDT)


On Sun, Apr 13, 2008, Joe Greco wrote:
browsers such as Firefox and Thunderbird.  But it is a LARGE paradigm
shift, and it doesn't even solve every problem with the e-mail system.

I am unconvinced that there aren't smaller potential paradigm shifts that
could be made.  However...

There already has been a paradigm shift. University students ("college" for you
'merkins) use facebook, myspace (less now, thankfully!) and IMs as their
primary online communication method. A number of students at my university
use email purely because the university uses it for internal systems
and communication, and use the above for everything else.

I think you'll find that "we" are the paradigm shift that needs to happen.
The younger people have already moved on. :)

I believe this is functionally equivalent to the "block 25 and consider
SMTP dead" FUSSP.

It's worth noting that each "newer" system is being systematically attacked
as well.  It isn't really a solution, it's just changing problem platforms.
The abuse remains.

... JG
-- 
Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net
"We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I
won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN)
With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.


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