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RE: an over-the-top data center
From: Måns Nilsson <mansaxel () besserwisser org>
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:33:30 +0100
--On måndag, måndag 1 dec 2008 18.19.14 -0500 Deepak Jain <deepak () ai net> wrote:
1) This datacenter is only 12,000 sq ft. (submessage: who cares?)
For some things, it is OK. It is not the only one, only the best marketed one.
2) The generators are underground. A leak in their exhaust system kills everyone -- worse, a leak in their fuel tank or filler lines (when being filled from above) could do the same. Yes, you could address this with alarms (provided they work and are tested, etc).
The original design and purpose required internal gensets. Keeping them inside is still important for a number of reasons. This is the Baltic, not San Diego. Rain, fog, snow, etc. Both intake and exhaust are normally coupled to the outside via boulder-blocked blasted tunnels, so the gas path is not connected to the inside.
3) No one cares if the server farm is blast proof (it isn't), if the connectivity in/out of it gets blasted (submessage: silos were meant to deliver one thing, datacenters aren't in the same operational model once they need connectivity to the outside world)
See what Mikael wrote.
4) With all of that fog and plant life, I wonder how they critically manage humidity. [Or if they even do].
I have been told by people who have been working with the construction of this very site that it is an unusually dry cave. It is pretty high up by Stockholm standards, which helps. -- Måns Nilsson M A C H I N A if it GLISTENS, gobble it!!
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- Re: an over-the-top data center Jim Popovitch (Dec 01)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Lamar Owen (Dec 01)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Kurt Erik Lindqvist (Dec 01)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Jean-François Mezei (Dec 01)
- RE: an over-the-top data center Deepak Jain (Dec 01)
- RE: an over-the-top data center Mikael Abrahamsson (Dec 01)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Paul Cosgrove (Dec 02)
- RE: an over-the-top data center Deepak Jain (Dec 02)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Charles Wyble (Dec 02)
- RE: an over-the-top data center Deepak Jain (Dec 02)
- RE: an over-the-top data center Mikael Abrahamsson (Dec 01)
- RE: an over-the-top data center Måns Nilsson (Dec 02)
- RE: an over-the-top data center Jeremy Jackson (Dec 02)
- Re: an over-the-top data center The Anarcat (Dec 02)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Jay Hennigan (Dec 02)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Brian Raaen (Dec 02)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Marshall Eubanks (Dec 02)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Jeff Shultz (Dec 02)
- RE: an over-the-top data center Blake Pfankuch (Dec 02)
- Re: an over-the-top data center chuck goolsbee (Dec 02)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Nick Hilliard (Dec 02)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Jeremy Jackson (Dec 02)