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Re: an over-the-top data center
From: Jeremy Jackson <jerj () coplanar net>
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:54:47 -0500
On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 23:05 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Now compare that to forcing every single participant to use unknown fiber paths into an unknown facility. When are these fibers groomed, and onto which unknown paths? Which fiber maintenance schedules might impact me without my knowledge? Which construction projects elsewhere in the city might take me down and there's no way for me to even predict that? Etc., etc. I would prefer to take my chances with the known quantity, thankyouverymuch. Feel free to do with your network as you please.
I wonder if there is a solution, in general to diverse physical routing... if you buy from multiple carriers, they might very well share the same fibre condo, or the same dark fibre vendor. if you buy diversity from one vendor, with only handwaving as the guarantee, you end up with Bell Canada's CO fire a couple years ago, that took down things which were *supposed* to be redundant. What are people's experience with knowing the physical routing? NetNod may be over-the-top secrecy wise, but are *any* carriers/facility providers any more "free" with information about the details of where their infrastructure is that supports the services you are buying? It seems the general practice is to claim everything is on a need-to-know basis, with the unspoken/unwritten caveat that nobody's needs will ever be considered valid? -- Jeremy Jackson Coplanar Networks (519)489-4903 http://www.coplanar.net jerj () coplanar net
Current thread:
- Re: an over-the-top data center, (continued)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Randy Bush (Dec 01)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Måns Nilsson (Dec 01)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Patrick W. Gilmore (Dec 01)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Måns Nilsson (Dec 01)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Jean-François Mezei (Dec 01)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Patrick W. Gilmore (Dec 01)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Kurt Erik Lindqvist (Dec 01)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Joe Provo (Dec 01)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Randy Bush (Dec 01)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Kurt Erik Lindqvist (Dec 02)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Lyndon Nerenberg (Dec 01)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Patrick W. Gilmore (Dec 01)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Seth Mattinen (Dec 01)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Lyndon Nerenberg (Dec 01)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Ian Mason (Dec 02)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Steven M. Bellovin (Dec 01)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Martin List-Petersen (Dec 01)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Jim Popovitch (Dec 01)