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Re: IBM report reviews Internet crime
From: JC Dill <lists05 () equinephotoart com>
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:28:31 -0800
Andre Gironda wrote:
It's our fault for not pushing AV on your customers, and it's the AV's fault for not providing audit data to us, and it's the software vendors' fault for causing us to have to recommend AV and for AV to exist. The liability should land on the software vendors.
I'm really surprised that ISPs haven't banded together to sue Microsoft for negligently selling and distributing an insecure OS that is an Attractive Nuisance - causing the ISPs (who don't own the OS infected computers) harm from the network traffic the infected OSs send, and causing them untold support dollars to handle the problem.
If every big ISP joined a class action lawsuit to force Microsoft to pay up for the time ISPs spend fixing viruses on Windows computer, Microsoft would get a LOT more proactive about solving this problem directly. The consumers have no redress against MS because of the EULA, but this doesn't extend to other computer owners (e.g. ISPs) who didn't agree to the EULA on the infected machine but who are impacted by the infection.
jc
Current thread:
- IBM report reviews Internet crime michael.dillon (Feb 12)
- Re: IBM report reviews Internet crime Owen DeLong (Feb 12)
- Re: IBM report reviews Internet crime Florian Weimer (Feb 12)
- Re: IBM report reviews Internet crime Owen DeLong (Feb 12)
- Re: IBM report reviews Internet crime Florian Weimer (Feb 13)
- Re: IBM report reviews Internet crime Florian Weimer (Feb 12)
- Re: IBM report reviews Internet crime Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 12)
- Re: IBM report reviews Internet crime Jim Popovitch (Feb 12)
- Re: IBM report reviews Internet crime Andre Gironda (Feb 12)
- Re: IBM report reviews Internet crime JC Dill (Feb 13)
- Re: IBM report reviews Internet crime Andre Gironda (Feb 13)
- Re: IBM report reviews Internet crime Mark Radabaugh (Feb 13)
- RE: IBM report reviews Internet crime Frank Bulk (Feb 14)
- Re: IBM report reviews Internet crime Owen DeLong (Feb 12)
- RE: IBM report reviews Internet crime michael.dillon (Feb 12)
- Re: IBM report reviews Internet crime J. Oquendo (Feb 12)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: IBM report reviews Internet crime Paul Ferguson (Feb 12)
- RE: IBM report reviews Internet crime Scott Weeks (Feb 12)
- Re: IBM report reviews Internet crime John Dupuy (Feb 13)