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Re: GBIC compatibility and pricing (was Managed, cheap, DC power switches)
From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman () es net>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:06:14 -0700
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:15:45 -0700 From: "Steve Dalberg" <sdalberg () marchex com> This reason is twofold, one is Resellers were just buying whatever cheap gbics they could and bundling them with Procurve switches (I'm sure this happens to other vendors too). Thus most of the profitable parts of switch sales were being eroded by the resellers. The other is that Procurve offers a lifetime warranty on most (possibly all) of their products, including gbics I believe, thus the premium. I believe you can just RMA a Procurve GBIC, and they will send you a new one, no receipts, no worries, no expiration, no service contract. He shouldn't have to eat 300 gbics unless he bought non-Procurve ones to begin with. HP should be able to exchange/reprogram them if they were HP Gbics.
The problem was that earlier code revs would accept 3rd party optics. Buying the optics from the manufacturer rather than from HP saved a lot of money and was a common practice. Then the code was upgraded to prohibit non-HP branded optics. This was a non-reversable upgrade and, for the folks who had bought their own optics, they had dead boxes and had to buy HP optics to get them back into service. Quite a few folks were a bit upset about this. While HP can make whatever claims they want as to why this was a benefit to the consumer, it was clear done to benefit the HP bottom line and the consumer was not taken into consideration. If you had HP optics, no exchange was needed. If you compare identical optics that are branded by the manufacturer vs. those branded Cisco or HP, you will notice a 'small' mark-up on the re-marked units. Maybe a few hundred percent. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman () es net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751
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- Re: Managed, cheap, DC power switches Patrick Giagnocavo (Jul 16)
- Re: Managed, cheap, DC power switches Beavis (Jul 16)
- RE: Managed, cheap, DC power switches Jason Gurtz (Jul 17)
- Re: Managed, cheap, DC power switches Jay R. Ashworth (Jul 17)
- Re: Managed, cheap, DC power switches Jay R. Ashworth (Jul 17)
- Re: Managed, cheap, DC power switches Seth Mattinen (Jul 17)
- Re: Managed, cheap, DC power switches Jeff Kell (Jul 17)
- OT: GBIC compatibility and pricing (was Managed, cheap, DC power switches) Jay R. Ashworth (Jul 17)
- RE: GBIC compatibility and pricing (was Managed, cheap, DC power switches) Steve Dalberg (Jul 17)
- Re: GBIC compatibility and pricing (was Managed, cheap, DC power switches) Hyunseog Ryu (Jul 17)
- Re: GBIC compatibility and pricing (was Managed, cheap, DC power switches) Kevin Oberman (Jul 17)
- Re: OT: GBIC compatibility and pricing (was Managed, cheap, DC power switches) Jay R. Ashworth (Jul 18)
- RE: Managed, cheap, DC power switches Tim Sanderson (Jul 17)
- Re: Managed, cheap, DC power switches Matthew Crocker (Jul 17)