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Re: amazonaws.com?
From: Steve Atkins <steve () blighty com>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:14:55 -0700
On May 28, 2008, at 9:03 AM, Sargun Dhillon wrote:
Has Amazon given an official statement on this? It would be nice to getsomeone from within Amazon to give us their official view on this. It would be even more appropriate for the other cloud infrastructures tojoin in, and or have some sort of RFC to do with SMTP access within the "cloud." I forsee this as a major problem as the idea of "the cloud" is being pushed more and more. You are talking about a spammers dream. Lowcost , powerful resources with no restrictions and complete anonymity.Personally I'm going to block *.amazonaws.com from my mail server untilAmazon gives us a statement on how they are planning on fighting spam from the cloud.
"The cloud" is just a marketing term for a bunch of virtual servers, at least in Amazons case. It's nothing particularly new, just a VPS farm with the same constraints and abuse issues as a VPS or managed server provider. The only reason this is a problem in the case of Amazon is that they're knowingly selling service to spammers, their abuse guy is in way over his head and isn't interested in policing their users unless they're doing something illegal or the check doesn't clear. As long as the spam being sent doesn't violate CAN-SPAM, it's legal. Cheers, Steve
Current thread:
- Re: amazonaws.com?, (continued)
- Re: amazonaws.com? Ian Mason (May 29)
- Re: amazonaws.com? Paul Vixie (May 29)
- RE: amazonaws.com? michael.dillon (May 30)
- Re: amazonaws.com? Ian Mason (May 29)
- RE: amazonaws.com? Robert Bonomi (May 27)
- Re: amazonaws.com? Colin Alston (May 27)
- RE: amazonaws.com? michael.dillon (May 27)
- RE: amazonaws.com? Tony Finch (May 28)
- RE: amazonaws.com? michael.dillon (May 28)
- RE: amazonaws.com? Tony Finch (May 28)
- Re: amazonaws.com? Sargun Dhillon (May 28)
- Re: amazonaws.com? Steve Atkins (May 28)
- Re: amazonaws.com? Sargun Dhillon (May 28)
- RE: amazonaws.com? Skywing (May 28)
- Re: amazonaws.com? Dorn Hetzel (May 28)
- Re: amazonaws.com? Peter Beckman (May 28)
- Re: amazonaws.com? Barry Shein (May 28)
- Re: amazonaws.com? Peter Beckman (May 28)
- Re: amazonaws.com? Dorn Hetzel (May 29)
- Re: amazonaws.com? Joel Jaeggli (May 29)
- RE: amazonaws.com? Matthew Huff (May 29)
- Re: amazonaws.com? Dorn Hetzel (May 29)