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Re: ingress SMTP
From: Steven Champeon <schampeo () hesketh com>
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 14:20:12 -0400
on Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 05:15:41PM +0000, *Hobbit* wrote:
Related question, now that some discussion has started: why the F does Gmail refuse to put real, identifiable injection-path headers in mail they relay out? The current "policy" only protects spammer identities behind a meaningless 10.x and is completely at odds with what almost every other freemail provider does, which of course breaks any receiving-end model. Who's here from Google that I can chat with about this?
Dunno who's here from Google, but every time I've asked about this (as the basis for a discussion of why they do such a sucky job of blocking 419 scams, which we otherwise block by injection point analysis) I've been told that it's a "privacy" issue. I long suspected it was just a side effect of an inflexible network architecture, but have been assured that, no, it's the privacy issue. And yes, this is completely at odds with the fact that they *do* put injection point IP audit trail into mail they relay via SMTP. In the end, it's an idiotic policy, and I hope they wake up and fix it. In the meantime, I'm reporting every 419 scam I get from them. -- hesketh.com/inc. v: +1(919)834-2552 f: +1(919)747-9073 w: http://hesketh.com/ antispam news, solutions for sendmail, exim, postfix: http://enemieslist.com/
Current thread:
- RE: ingress SMTP, (continued)
- RE: ingress SMTP Frank Bulk (Sep 03)
- Re: ingress SMTP Chris Boyd (Sep 03)
- Re: ingress SMTP Edward B. DREGER (Sep 07)
- RE: ingress SMTP Frank Bulk (Sep 03)
- Re: ingress SMTP Charles Wyble (Sep 03)
- Why not go after bots? (was: ingress SMTP) Michael Thomas (Sep 03)
- Re: Why not go after bots? Charles Wyble (Sep 03)
- Re: Why not go after bots? (was: ingress SMTP) Suresh Ramasubramanian (Sep 03)
- RE: Why not go after bots? (was: ingress SMTP) Frank Bulk (Sep 03)
- Why not go after bots? (was: ingress SMTP) Michael Thomas (Sep 03)
- RE: ingress SMTP Skywing (Sep 03)
- Re: ingress SMTP *Hobbit* (Sep 03)
- Re: ingress SMTP Steven Champeon (Sep 03)
- Re: ingress SMTP Robert Bonomi (Sep 03)
- Re: ingress SMTP Alec Berry (Sep 04)
- Re: ingress SMTP Mark Andrews (Sep 04)
- Re: ingress SMTP Alec Berry (Sep 04)
- Re: ingress SMTP Alec Berry (Sep 04)
- RE: ingress SMTP Justin D. Scott (Sep 03)
- Re: ingress SMTP Mark Foster (Sep 03)
- Re: ingress SMTP Jeff Kinz (Sep 04)