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RE: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband


From: Skywing <Skywing () valhallalegends com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:11:59 -0500

And how many of them also have a "cable/DSL wireless router" thingie plugged into the wall in between?

(Sure, you can unplug it -- if you know to do that, without being able to phone anyone to be told to do so...)

- S

-----Original Message-----
From: Marshall Eubanks <tme () americafree tv>
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 12:36
To: Luke Marrott <luke.marrott () gmail com>
Cc: nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband


On Aug 28, 2009, at 3:17 PM, Luke Marrott wrote:

One thing that I think service providers take into account is that
while
many people still have phones that do not have their own power source,
battery backups for home computers aren't that common as a general
rule.
There is no need to have battery backup for internet services if the
computer doesn't have power.

Most people I know use laptops as their primary computers. These most
definitely have battery backup.

Regards
Marshall


:Luke

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Walter Keen <walter.keen () rainierconnect net
wrote:

 I agree, while the majority of government and service providers have
 the opinion that POTS is a lifeline service, and ethernet is not, I
 disagree.  I know the service provider I work for is starting to
change
 their views on this, but it will take time for the general
populous of
 managers, etc throughout the nation to realize this.
 William Herrin wrote:

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Carlos Alcantar[1]<carlos () race com>
wrote:

The dropping of internet is done on purpose to preserve the battery
for
the pots when ac power is lost.  This is an actual setting in just
about
all manufacturers of ftth equipment.  You'll probably have a hard
time
to get them to change the profile on the equipment tho but it is
possible.

Hi Carlos,

I realize why it's done. I merely point out that there are common
configurations in which the having the FTTH NID power the POTS
circuitry and drop the Internet circuitry is exactly the opposite of
correct. Where instead of preserving access to emergency responders,
it is intentionally designed to cut that access.

Regards,
Bill Herrin




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Walter Keen
Network Technician
Rainier Connect
(o) 360-832-4024
(c) 253-302-0194

References

 1. mailto:carlos () race com




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:Luke Marrott





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