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RE: Arrogant RBL list maintainers
From: "Frank Bulk" <frnkblk () iname com>
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 21:15:57 -0600
Each network can decide how they want to run their network, and Trend Micro can make any list they like, but if cb3rob.net wants to send e-mail to other networks that use Trend Micro's list for spam control, cb3rob.net will have to decide whether to comply with the other network's rules, even if those rules seem unreasonable. Two sides of an SP's coin: I want to maximize my e-mail servers' deliverability, so I make sure those have appropriately named PTRs and make sure that outbound messages aren't spammy; I also want to restrict deliverability of e-mail from my dynamic space, so I have appropriately named PTRs so that others don't have to guess what kind of host it is. Perhaps I forgot those customers with static hosts and that want to send e-mail -- I make sure those PTRs are well-named, too. Frank -----Original Message----- From: Seth Mattinen [mailto:sethm () rollernet us] Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:24 PM To: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Michael Holstein wrote:
Suit yourself .. but you can't arbitrarily force the Internet as a whole to adopt an unwritten standard just to make your lives easier. If we encounter problems with our end-users and not being able to deliver email reliably to one of your customers, we'll have them call you, since we're complying with all the various SPAM prevention standards that presently exist.
One could argue that you are *not* complying by using a generic PTR for a mail server. Some would say that a serious mail server should have proper DNS records, others will say that you should accept mail from any IP no matter what. ~Seth
Current thread:
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers, (continued)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Michael Holstein (Dec 10)
- RE: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Frank Bulk (Dec 09)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Chris Edwards (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Tony Finch (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Ronald Cotoni (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Michelle Sullivan (Dec 16)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Niels Bakker (Dec 16)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Michelle Sullivan (Dec 16)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers John Levine (Dec 09)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Michael Holstein (Dec 09)
- RE: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Frank Bulk (Dec 09)
- RE: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Mikael Abrahamsson (Dec 09)
- RE: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Sam Hayes Merritt, III (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Dave CROCKER (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Steven Champeon (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Sven Olaf Kamphuis (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Raymond Dijkxhoorn (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Sven Olaf Kamphuis (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Raymond Dijkxhoorn (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers John Levine (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Michelle Sullivan (Dec 16)