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Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers
From: Sven Olaf Kamphuis <sven () cyberbunker com>
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:55:37 +0000 (GMT)
thing is that it's illegal to maintain a database with "personal details" which ip addresses according to various german courts are (don't ask.. mmk? ;) ofcourse we all know ip addresses identify nodes on a network, not persons, but the germans seem to mainain a different view on this, despite us isps being the owners of the internet and not the german government ;). therefore we are not even -allowed- to cooperate with trend micro *grin* sometimes laws really come in handy you know ;) -- Sven Olaf Kamphuis CB3ROB Ltd. & Co. KG DataServices Phone: +31/87-8747479 Skype: CB3ROB MSN: sven () cb3rob net C.V.: http://www.linkedin.com/in/cb3rob Confidential: Please be advised that the information contained in this email message, including all attached documents or files, is privileged and confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or individuals addressed. Any other use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote:
Hi!RBLs are neither authorised (EU privacy laws anyone?), nor the appointed authority to keep databases on "whats static or not". RIRs -are-, if anyone should maintain a database on such things, i'd be the rirs (which they have, it's called "whois", it just lacks a field that indicates the type of assignment method used.Who cares!? This is something between the ISP using them and YOU. If people want to make use of ANY datasource thats their own thing. They are not forced to use it at all. There is no EU law or anything involved here. There are blacklists that block .CN, so what, up to you to use it it not. Same with iptables, you can also filter anything you like there, yourselve. No EU law telling anything about that. Stick to the point, solve your issue with the party receiving your mails. they dediced to use the list, and most likely were not forced to do so. If you want to mail with them, fix your reverses. If not, no problem either. But stop whining :) Byem, Raymond. X-CONTACT-FILTER-MATCH: "nanog"
Current thread:
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers, (continued)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Michelle Sullivan (Dec 16)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers John Levine (Dec 09)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Michael Holstein (Dec 09)
- RE: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Frank Bulk (Dec 09)
- RE: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Mikael Abrahamsson (Dec 09)
- RE: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Sam Hayes Merritt, III (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Dave CROCKER (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Steven Champeon (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Sven Olaf Kamphuis (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Raymond Dijkxhoorn (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Sven Olaf Kamphuis (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Raymond Dijkxhoorn (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers John Levine (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Michelle Sullivan (Dec 16)
- RE: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Mark Scholten (Dec 16)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers William Pitcock (Dec 16)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Joe Greco (Dec 10)
- best practices for PTR naming and whois (was, sadly, Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers) Steven Champeon (Dec 10)
- Re: best practices for PTR naming and whois (was, sadly, Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers) Michael Thomas (Dec 10)
- Re: best practices for PTR naming and whois (was, sadly, Re: ArrogantRBL list maintainers) O'Reirdan, Michael (Dec 10)
- Re: best practices for PTR naming and whois (was, sadly, Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers) Steven Champeon (Dec 10)