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Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch
From: Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:34:42 -0600
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 09:43, Randy Bush<randy () psg com> wrote:
sure, we need a privacy policy that can be arbitrarily changed with no... previous ...notice just as we have for ...... everything !!!exactly. so was the question a troll, a red herring, or just a rant? randy
I guess it was just a rant, I like to know more specifically how folks intend to use data before I hand it over - and I like that promise to be at least theoretically enforceable. I am far from a lawyer but it is my understanding that an official pp is much more substantive and binding than a single FAQ answer -- especially in the eyes of the FTC. Yes policies can be changed but I can follow those changes and stop using the service/tool/etc if I don't like the changes. If you are saying that the policy can be changed after the fact to allow uses of the data for purposes or in manners other than those originally stated, I think you are wrong, see the 2004 case between the FTC and Gateway Learning as one example I know of off hand: Howard Beales, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection. “You can change the rules but not after the game has been played.” (http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/07/gateway.shtm) I will grant you that in this case the data being collected is probably not that sensitive, but the access to my computer is - to me at least. I for one would have used the tool immediately had there been an acceptable PP or other TOS in place but without it I hesitate... So I figured I would bring it up. ~Chris PS - if you are interested in TOS related stuff, might be worthwhile to check out http://www.tosback.org/timeline.php a new project launched by the EFF (no affiliation, just fyi)
Current thread:
- ICSI Netalyzr launch vern (Jun 09)
- Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch Christopher Morrow (Jun 10)
- Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch vern (Jun 10)
- Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch Patrick W. Gilmore (Jun 10)
- Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch Nathan Ward (Jun 10)
- Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch Christopher Morrow (Jun 10)
- Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch vern (Jun 10)
- Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch Christopher Morrow (Jun 10)
- Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch Chris Grundemann (Jun 10)
- Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch Randy Bush (Jun 12)
- Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch Jorge Amodio (Jun 12)
- Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch Randy Bush (Jun 12)
- Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch Chris Grundemann (Jun 12)
- Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch Randy Bush (Jun 12)
- Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch Michael Holstein (Jun 12)
- Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch Randy Bush (Jun 12)
- Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch Chris Grundemann (Jun 12)
- Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch Randy Bush (Jun 12)
- Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch Jorge Amodio (Jun 12)