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Re: Why choose 120 volts?


From: Dorn Hetzel <dhetzel () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:28:13 -0400

The early problems with distance transmission of DC really didn't have
anything to do with the inherent properties of DC current, but with
the fact that, at the time, there was no good way to convert DC
voltages up and down in a similar fashion to the function performed by
transformers with AC.

The inability to step DC up to high voltage for distant transmission
was the real killer for early use of DC.  Lately, very high voltage DC
is actually a better performer than AC for some long distance
transmission situations.  In particular, DC can be used to move power
between unsynchronized grids without the usual problems, and to
transmit power through undersea cables, where AC capacitance losses
would add up.  See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-voltage_direct_current#Advantages_of_HVDC_over_AC_transmission

The main thing that has changed since the early days is that much
better semiconductors are available to make the voltage conversion
feasible...

-Dorn

2009/5/27 Brian Raaen <braaen () zcorum com>:
As a Holder of two different FCC licenses I can tell you voltage is not
what kills, it is amps and location that kill. Actually in certain cases
as long at you have good electrical isolation, high enough dielectric
breakdown voltage, and good grounding higher voltages can be safer and
more efficient. Also, Thomas Edison was the one that discovered that
trying to deliver DC more than a few feet was not a good idea.

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Alex H. Ryu wrote:
Also, adding followings.

5) availability from local power provider(s)

6) local regulation such as fire department safety rules...

7) for your own safety... (120V may not kill people, but 240V can do...)


If you want better, why not just have everything to DC power ?
Something like 48V...

Alex


Wayne E. Bouchard wrote:

1) Equipment used to not be dual voltage

2) For smaller scale, 120V UPS and distribution equipment is usually
cheaper

3) 120V embedded itself into operations as a result.

4) We're all lazy and hate change.

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:39:10PM -0700, Seth Mattinen wrote:


I have a pure curiosity question for the NANOG crowd here. If you run
your facility/datacenter/cage/rack on 120 volts, why?

I've been running my facility at 208 for years because I can get away
with lower amperage circuits. I'm curious about the reasons for using
high-amp 120 volt circuits to drive racks of equipment instead of
low-amp 208 or 240 volt circuits.

~Seth


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