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Re: Small guys with BGP issues
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 23:47:25 -0500
- practice good behaviour (bcp38) and don't preach it
Did you mean preach but don't practice it? While I appreciate everyone who "preaches" it, I am not going to complain in the slightest at any "big guy" who practices BCP38. Just the opposite, I'm going to praise them whether they preach it or not.
And this is not the big boy list. This is for all Operators in North America, and many who are not, regardless of size. (Well, I guess we'll exclude the guy who buys are cable/DSL link and "provides" to his mother & father with a LinkSys.)
-- TTFN, patrick On Nov 1, 2009, at 11:01 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote:
Seems to me that some people have issues when a thread is taken over. capiche... However, it also seems to me that there are people here who are intelligent engineers who are afraid to speak, due to the size of the company they work for. On behalf of the 'small guys', it sucks when you big(ger) guys: - don't listen to us - practice good behaviour (bcp38) and don't preach it - speak proudly of decent support, but don't respond to people who aren't staffed by a tier(x) - act as though you know something, but won't get out of the textbook mentality - again, this isn't a test for ccie, just because were working in smaller *sp's doesn't mean that we know less than you - we work hard. We have smaller networks. I bet we defend our border egress to you than you defend toward us- if all small guys like me are the same, then the 'big boys' should bemotivated to move forward Lets take it off topic and off-thread...This is a big-boy list. Out of the small guys on this big boy list, lets have a hands-up for who is doing the right thing (v6 & network defence &protecting their connected networks )... Steve
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- Re: Small guys with BGP issues Patrick W. Gilmore (Nov 01)
- Re: Small guys with BGP issues Steve Bertrand (Nov 01)
- Re: Small guys with BGP issues Richard A Steenbergen (Nov 01)
- Re: Small guys with BGP issues Steve Bertrand (Nov 01)
- Re: Small guys with BGP issues Richard A Steenbergen (Nov 01)
- Re: Small guys with BGP issues Steve Bertrand (Nov 01)
- Re: Small guys with BGP issues Richard A Steenbergen (Nov 01)
- Re: Small guys with BGP issues Paul Wall (Nov 01)
- Re: Small guys with BGP issues Adam Armstrong (Nov 03)
- Re: Small guys with BGP issues Adrian Chadd (Nov 01)
- Re: Small guys with BGP issues Steve Bertrand (Nov 01)
- Re: Small guys with BGP issues Steve Bertrand (Nov 01)