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RE: ISP customer assignments
From: "Wouter de Jong" <wouter () widexs nl>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:48:00 +0200
In a message written on Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 08:14:40PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: <..>
What about web-hosting type servers? Right now, I've got a group of servers in a common IPv4 subnet (maybe a /26), with a /24 or two
routed
to each server for hosted sites. What is the IPv6 equivalent? I can see a /64 for the common subnet, but what to route for aliased IPs for web hosts? It is kind of academic right now, since our hosting
control
panel software doesn't handle IPv6, but I certainly won't be putting 2^64 sites on a single server. Use a /112 here again as well? Use a /64 per server because I can?
I'd be interested in any suggestions on this part as well. We're a Hosting provider and basicly we have (for now) 3 different product-groups we want to launch IPv6 on : 1 - Shared Hosting These servers (Linux), are all in 1 vlan. Each server has 1 IPv4 address from the subnet that's configured on the vlan. Then we have an IPv4 /24 routed to each of the servers (each server has 1 /24 to host sites on). Here I'd assign a single /64 and use static addressing. 2 - Premium Managed & Unmanaged Hosting (Co-location). Each customer has one (or more) dedicated subnets and vlans. Here I'd assign a /64 per vlan. I'd do static addressing for Managed, but probably provide RA (EUI-64) for Unmanaged. 3 - Managed and Umanaged Hosting (Co-location). These servers are in 'shared' subnets, ranging from /23 to /26, and each customer get's assigned at least 1 IP from this subnet and more if they can justify. For customers needing 'large' subnets, we'd route a different subnet to their server of choice. Here, I'm not sure what to do... You should at least assign a /64 per customer, but how would one do that when they are in shared subnets/vlans... ? If for every server I'd need to assign a /64 secondary to our vlan interfaces, I'd trip the maximums (Nortel Passport 8600 used for these customers has quite some limitations on IPv6). It would be nice though, cause once IPv4 is no longer used (...) we could move customers to another/dedicated vlan. We've also fiddled with the idea of assigning one /48 to each of these vlans, and let each 'server' use a /64 out of it. This still seems a bit weird though... Also, since we do IP based billing here, we'd never know if one has 'hijacked' some IP space. Yes, we'd know for un-assigned addresses (not assigned but has traffic -> alert), but I don't expect a customer to use all addresses out of 'their' /64, so the not used addresses could be easily be abused. For IPv4, all addresses are usually really used and the customer who's IP's are hijacked, would almost definitely hang on the phone in no-time. Some advice would be very appreciated. Best regards, Wouter de Jong WideXS
Current thread:
- Re: ISP customer assignments, (continued)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Nathan Ward (Oct 13)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Chris Adams (Oct 13)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Nathan Ward (Oct 13)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Michael Dillon (Oct 15)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Chris Adams (Oct 15)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Nathan Ward (Oct 15)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Dave Temkin (Oct 15)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Rob Evans (Oct 16)
- Re: ISP customer assignments William Herrin (Oct 15)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Tore Anderson (Oct 16)
- RE: ISP customer assignments Wouter de Jong (Oct 14)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Joel Jaeggli (Oct 13)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Justin Shore (Oct 13)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Michael Dillon (Oct 13)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Bill Stewart (Oct 19)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Nathan Ward (Oct 19)
- Re: ISP customer assignments bmanning (Oct 19)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Nathan Ward (Oct 19)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Bill Stewart (Oct 20)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Mark Andrews (Oct 20)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Karl Auer (Oct 20)