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Re: net-neutrality
From: Sven Olaf Kamphuis <sven () cb3rob net>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:26:59 +0000 (UTC)
next up on the list: disney, paramount pictures, sony music entertainment, sony pictures entertainment, most of vivendi/universal group, viacom..
all of these organisations have well established themselves on the list of organisations not worthy to have their traffic relayed for free.
-- Greetings, Sven Olaf Kamphuis, CB3ROB Ltd. & Co. KG ========================================================================= Address: Koloniestrasse 34 VAT Tax ID: DE267268209 D-13359 Registration: HRA 42834 B BERLIN Phone: +31/(0)87-8747479 Germany GSM: +49/(0)152-26410799 RIPE: CBSK1-RIPE e-Mail: sven () cb3rob net ========================================================================= <penpen> C3P0, der elektrische Westerwelle ========================================================================= Confidential: Please be advised that the information contained in this email message, including all attached documents or files, is privileged and confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or individuals addressed. Any other use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, Mark Smith wrote:
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:52:53 +0000 (UTC) Sven Olaf Kamphuis <sven () cb3rob net> wrote:Hi, considering the fact that several organisations have been severely undermining net-neutrality over the past few months,What is your definition of violating net-neutrality? Is it (a) carriers ransoming content providers so that only then will the content providers receive fair, equal and unfettered access to the carriers' customers? or (b) applying QoS to customer traffic if necessary because TCP was designed to suck up all the bandwidth available (to try to achieve 100% return on investment in the network capex), based on an original assumption that there'd be short bursts of TCP traffic, and now some applications, particular P2P ones, which use TCP, now create constant rather than bursty load on the network, resulting in congestion and impacting latency sensitive applications such as VoIP and gaming?which they seem to see as less important than their copyright bullshit, we have decided to set an example: Should the following networks, to which list more will be added over the coming month, desire to exchange traffic with AS34109, they can obtain a traffic relay contract at sales () cb3rob net, the costs of which amount to 10000 euros per month, excl. 19% VAT, if not, well, then it's simply no more internets for them... sorry peeps. 193.108.8.0/21#GEMA-NET 195.109.249.64/29#SONYMUSIC 195.143.92.160/27#SBMG1-NETS 212.123.224.240/29#Net-WEGENER-MEDIA-BV 212.123.227.64/29#BumaStemra2 212.136.193.216/29#BUMA 212.78.179.240/28#BUMA-STEMRA 213.208.242.160/29#NL-COLT-BUMA-STEMRA 217.148.80.112/28#NL-NXS-CUST-1004613 85.236.46.0/24#IX-UNIVERSAL-NET -- Greetings, Sven Olaf Kamphuis, CB3ROB Ltd. & Co. KG ========================================================================= Address: Koloniestrasse 34 VAT Tax ID: DE267268209 D-13359 Registration: HRA 42834 B BERLIN Phone: +31/(0)87-8747479 Germany GSM: +49/(0)152-26410799 RIPE: CBSK1-RIPE e-Mail: sven () cb3rob net ========================================================================= <penpen> C3P0, der elektrische Westerwelle ========================================================================= Confidential: Please be advised that the information contained in this email message, including all attached documents or files, is privileged and confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or individuals addressed. Any other use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.
Current thread:
- net-neutrality Sven Olaf Kamphuis (Aug 11)
- Re: net-neutrality Mark Smith (Aug 11)
- Re: net-neutrality Sven Olaf Kamphuis (Aug 11)
- Re: net-neutrality William Pitcock (Aug 11)
- Re: net-neutrality Sven Olaf Kamphuis (Aug 11)
- Re: net-neutrality Sven Olaf Kamphuis (Aug 11)
- Re: net-neutrality Suresh Ramasubramanian (Aug 11)
- Re: net-neutrality Sven Olaf Kamphuis (Aug 11)
- Re: net-neutrality Suresh Ramasubramanian (Aug 11)
- Re: net-neutrality Sven Olaf Kamphuis (Aug 11)
- Re: net-neutrality Sven Olaf Kamphuis (Aug 11)
- Re: net-neutrality Raymond Dijkxhoorn (Aug 11)
- Re: net-neutrality Suresh Ramasubramanian (Aug 11)
- Re: net-neutrality Sven Olaf Kamphuis (Aug 11)
- Re: net-neutrality Mark Smith (Aug 11)
- Re: net-neutrality William Pitcock (Aug 11)
- Re: net-neutrality Chris Fuenty (Aug 11)