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Re: Lightly used IP addresses
From: Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:03:59 -0600
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 15:25, Ken Chase <ken () sizone org> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 05:00:04PM -0400, Jared Mauch said: >I know of several large providers that would stop routing such "rogue" space. Really? They'd take a seriously delinquent (and we're only talking about non payment after several months to Arin, not spammers or other 'criminal' elements) that's still paying for their transit and cut off their prefix announcements? I dont know that that's true for most outfits in these tough times. Nixing a $5000 or $10000+ MRC revenue stream probably requires some hard thought at high levels in most outfits.
First, in this thread we are not talking about folks who have not paid ARIN their dues, we are talking about folks who "sell" addresses despite not being authorized to do so by ARIN - aka abuse/fraud. Either way, if ARIN finds strong enough reason to revoke numbers from Org A who is ISP X' customer, ARIN will eventually reassign those numbers. When ISP Y calls ISP X and says "hey, your customer Org A is advertising my customer Org B's address space." ISP X will check WHOIS, see that they are telling the truth and filter that block from Org A. If ISP X does not, they will likely see peering and transit options shrink rapidly. So in short - yes, really. ~Chris
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Current thread:
- RE: Lightly used IP addresses, (continued)
- RE: Lightly used IP addresses Nathan Eisenberg (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Marshall Eubanks (Aug 13)
- RE: Lightly used IP addresses William Pitcock (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Greg Whynott (Aug 13)
- RE: Lightly used IP addresses Nathan Eisenberg (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Ken Chase (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Jared Mauch (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Ken Chase (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Jared Mauch (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Randy Bush (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Chris Grundemann (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Randy Bush (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Doug Barton (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Chris Grundemann (Aug 14)
- RE: Lightly used IP addresses Greg Whynott (Aug 13)
- RE: Lightly used IP addresses Nathan Eisenberg (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses David Conrad (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Ken Chase (Aug 13)
- RE: Lightly used IP addresses Frank Bulk (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Randy Bush (Aug 14)