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RE: Lightly used IP addresses
From: "Frank Bulk" <frnkblk () iname com>
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 21:09:55 -0500
A possible stick for ARIN could be that any AS that advertises space for B and any network that uses that rogue AS would not receive resource requests/changes from ARIN. Perhaps too strong of a stick? Frank -----Original Message----- From: Ken Chase [mailto:ken () sizone org] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 2:13 PM To: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Lightly used IP addresses On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 06:49:35PM +0000, Nathan Eisenberg said: >> Is this upstream going to cut that customer off and >> lose the revenue, just to satisfy ARIN's bleating? > >Isn't this a little bit like an SSL daemon? One which refuses to process a revocation list on the basis of the function of the certificate is useless. The revocation list only has authority if the agent asks for and processes it. Would you use this SSL daemon, knowing that it had this bug? > >I would consider a transit provider who subverted an ARIN revocation to be disreputable, and seek other sources of transit. Assuming the public even found out about the situation. For ARIN to make good on this community goodwill, they'd have to (1) publish the disrepute of the upstream who refuses to stop announcing the rogue downstream's prefixes. Im not sure what step 2+ is going to be there, but I bet ARIN would become very unpopular with (1) above amongst its customers reselling bandwidth to other ARIN IPv4 block users. How many large carriers on this list would immediately halt announcing a downstream-in-good-financial-standing's prefixes just because ARIN say's they're delinquent? I bet most wont even answer this question to the list here - most likely dont have an official policy for this situation, and if they did, it's likely not going to be publically disclosed. (If any are willing to disclose such publically, I'd love to hear/see the policy's details.) /kc >Best Regards, >Nathan Eisenberg >Atlas Networks, LLC -- Ken Chase - ken () heavycomputing ca - +1 416 897 6284 - Toronto CANADA Heavy Computing - Clued bandwidth, colocation and managed linux VPS @151 Front St. W.
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- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Randy Bush (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Chris Grundemann (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Randy Bush (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Doug Barton (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Chris Grundemann (Aug 14)
- RE: Lightly used IP addresses Greg Whynott (Aug 13)
- RE: Lightly used IP addresses Nathan Eisenberg (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses David Conrad (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Ken Chase (Aug 13)
- RE: Lightly used IP addresses Frank Bulk (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Randy Bush (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses John Curran (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Ken Chase (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Owen DeLong (Aug 13)
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