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RE: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style
From: "George Bonser" <gbonser () seven com>
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 11:37:21 -0800
-----Original Message----- From: Jeff Wheeler [mailto:jsw () inconcepts biz] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 3:55 AM To: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e- gerbil.net> wrote:Running a wire to everyone's house is a natural monopoly. It just doesn't make sense, financially or technically, to try and manage 50 different companies all trying to install 50 different wires intoeveryhouse just to have competition at the IP layer. It also wouldn't
make
What no one has mentioned thus far is that CLECs really are able to install their own facilities to homes and businesses if they decide that is a good way to invest their finite resources. This is why we see several options for local loops in the "business district" of every sizable city, as well as in many newly-developed areas such as industrial parks. These infrastructure builds are expensive, the CLECs had limited logistical capabilities and could only manage so many projects at once, and obviously, they focused their efforts on the parts of town where return-on-investment was likely to be highest. Businesses often do have several good choices for voice, data, Internet, and so on. Cogent is an example of an essentially Internet-only service having some degree of success at this without even offering voice, or initially even transport, products.
Also, there are two ways in to most urban and suburban home. There is the telco and there is the "cable" company. There is no reason those two paths should not compete for the same services, and they do across an increasing area of the US. The rural areas, though, are a completely different story.
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