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Re: IP4 Space
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 01:51:53 +0800
On Mar 6, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Thomas Magill wrote:
That brings a question to mind. As an ISP, with IPv4, end sites that are multihoming can justify a /24 from us (or another upstream) and announce it through multiple providers. With IPv6, are they supposedtoget their block from ARIN directly if they are multihoming? In other words, should I _never_ allow customers to announce smaller blocks ofmyIPv6 ARIN block?According to ARIN, you must meet their IPv4 requirements for an ARIN block to get an IPv6 ARIN block. That leads me to believe that the same customers who need v4 space from you would also need v6 space from you.
Um, not exactly. According to ARIN, _IF_ you meet their requirements for obtaining an IPv4 block, then, you ALSO automatically meet their requirements for obtaining an IPv6 block. There are ALSO other ways to qualify for an IPv6 block, completely independent of the qualification for or possession of an IPv4 block. As to the question about what you should or should not allow your customers to announce, that is up to you. However, there is a specific block being used to issue ARIN end-user assignments, and, many ISPs filter that more liberally (/48) than they filter blocks used for allocation (/32). As such, your customers who are multihomed _MAY_ have a better chance of having their prefix seen if they use an ARIN direct assignment. However, there is at least 1 provider (hello, AS701) that blocks nearly all prefixes longer than /32 in IPv6, so, customers that are multihomed and announcing a more specific from your space would appear as if they are single-homed to Verizon customers, while they would be invisible to Verizon customers if they use ARIN space. There may be other providers with similar filtration policies. Hurricane Electric will accept routes either way. I cannot speak in detail about the conduct of other providers, as I do not know their policies. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: IP4 Space, (continued)
- Re: IP4 Space Steven Bellovin (Mar 24)
- Re: IP4 Space Lamar Owen (Mar 26)
- Re: IP4 Space David Conrad (Mar 23)
- Re: IP4 Space isabel dias (Mar 23)
- Re: IP4 Space Nathan Ward (Mar 22)
- Re: IP4 Space Andy Davidson (Mar 05)
- Re: IP4 Space Tim Durack (Mar 05)
- Re: IP4 Space Jeff McAdams (Mar 05)
- Re: IP4 Space Chris Adams (Mar 05)
- RE: IP4 Space Thomas Magill (Mar 05)
- Re: IP4 Space Owen DeLong (Mar 05)
- RE: IP4 Space Thomas Magill (Mar 05)
- Re: IP4 Space Owen DeLong (Mar 05)
- Re: IP4 Space William Herrin (Mar 05)